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- From: iikkap@mits.mdata.fi (Iikka Paavolainen)
- Subject: Re: iq<->religion: connection?
- Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
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- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 00:35:34 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.003534.15314@prime.mdata.fi>
- References: <1992Dec26.220732.28497@prime.mdata.fi> <1992Dec27.162821.4675@jcnpc.cmhnet.org>
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- In article <1992Dec27.162821.4675@jcnpc.cmhnet.org> mam@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (Mike A. McAngus) writes:
- >
- >This is still statistically insignificant, anecdotal evidence.
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- 1000 people statistically insignificant?
-
- >Sorry, I thought this was a rhetorical question related to your sentence
- >"Proof?" above.
- >Now I will say that, given the context, I don't understand what you are asking.
- >What is the point I'm evading?
-
- Proof of this 'intelligence' in Luther et al.
- You must define intelligence for yourself to be able to state this.
- You are bashing yourself with your own words.
-
- >: >Where is your statistical study of this area of intelligence?
- >:
- >: On my desk.
- >
- >Could you post the results and email a copy to me?
-
- No thanks. Only to a person who does something with them.
-
- >Given that Mr. Doe and I are arguing that your personal experiences are not
- >significant, pointing to your belief and saying that Xians will suppress
- >evidence is begging the question.
-
- If you don't find my experiences significant, why don't you have some experien-
- ces for yourself. This isn't a thesis or anything, just a sincere observation.
- Anybody saying that my 'thesis' is not substatiated or sounds stupid, can say
- what they want, because I don't have a thesis.
- So what if you prove that intelligence has no effect on atheism? Easy?
-
- >: People tend to believe what they have most proof of. Intelligence is used to
- >: deduce which of the options is the 'most' correct.
- >
- >Intelligence is used to decide which option is most workable. Utility and
- >Truth are not necessarily synonymous.
-
- So why on earth are you demanding a definition of intelligence, when you are
- giving one yourself?
-
- >: And the stuff in the Bible is pointless without proper study. Gotcha.
- >
- >I'll also ask the Xians for proof of their assertions. When the Xians state
- >that god exists, we in this group ask for corroboration independent of their
- >holy texts. When you state that Atheists are more intelligent than Xians, it
- >is reasonable for people to ask you for corroboration independent of your
- >circle of friends.
-
- And? How true have you found the christians beliefs to be? Did you not use
- intelligence to deduce your conclusion?
- I am just getting more and more support for the original idea.
-
- >--
- >Mike McAngus | As if I needed Another time consuming hobby.
- >(mam@jcnpc.cmhnet.org) |
- >The Truth is still the Truth | This Post exploits illiterates.
- >Even if you choose to ignore it. |
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