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- From: patc@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Pat Caldon)
- Subject: Re: atheists & agnostics
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.052830.8191@ucc.su.OZ.AU>
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- References: <1992Dec11.122820.20644@ucc.su.OZ.AU> <540RVB1w165w@mantis.co.uk>
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 05:28:30 GMT
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- In article <540RVB1w165w@mantis.co.uk> mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk> writes:
- >patc@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Pat Caldon) writes:
- >> In article <u3NiVB15w165w@mantis.co.uk> mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk> writes:
- >> >patc@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Pat Caldon) writes:
- >> >> I don't know a great deal about Bhuddism, however, the idea that we will
- >> >> attain Nirvana and be incorporated into a god-like figure is at odds
- >> >> with atheism, as stated "the lack of belief in god or gods."
- >> >
- >> >Yes, but that's Hinduism.
- >>
- >> I believe that there is something of the same concept in Bhuddism. However,
- >> I'm not really qualified to say - I've never spoken about Bhuddism to a
- >> Bhuddist.
- >
- >Well, could you at least learn to spell it?
-
- Oops.
-
- >
- >> >Buddhism isn't really derived from Hinduism; in its early years, it was more
- >> >of a backlash against Hinduism. You might as well argue that the Church of
- >> >the SubGenius is derived from Christianity.
- >>
- >> I meant "derived" in the sense that Islam is derived from Judaism.
- >
- >Yes, so did I.
-
- I don't think there was the same element of satire in the founding of
- Buddism. (SFSF)
-
- >
- >> There is a common root, so to speak.
- >
- >Indeed -- but so what?
- >
-
- The question was "Is Bh^Huddhism atheist?" I said that it is derived
- from Hinduism, not in the sense of a joke, but in many ways seems (to my
- admittedly limited perception) to have a common philosophy, reincarnation
- being a prime example. As such it is not inconsistent (IMHO again) to
- suggest that Buddism is not atheist. (quadruple negative urrgh) Again
- from what I have seen of Buddist ritual (use of prayer wheels, for instance)
- it doesn't seem to be atheist.
-
- A few more IMHOs go in here for further effect.
-
- --
- Pat Caldon. | The Mercy Seat is Burning, And I think my Head is
- patc@extro.ucc.su.oz.au| turning, and deep inside I'm longing to be done with
- 3:714/908.5@fidonet.org| all this weighing up of truth... -- Nick Cave
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