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- From: ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik )
- Newsgroups: alt.atheism
- Subject: Re: Criticism: "There's no logic in Christianity"
- Message-ID: <ksand-221292175246@wintermute.apple.com>
- Date: 23 Dec 92 02:03:32 GMT
- References: <1992Dec22.213829.25884@csrd.uiuc.edu>
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- In article <1992Dec22.213829.25884@csrd.uiuc.edu>,
- skinner@sp94.csrd.uiuc.edu (Gregg Skinner) wrote:
-
- Hey, this is moving over to alt.atheism!
-
- > In talk.religion.misc, Kent Sandvik suggested that "there's no logic
- > in Christianity". When pressed to back up his statement, he argued
- > that because there is not universal agreement on some of the premises
- > of Christianity (e.g. all sin; God exists; etc.), Christianity is
- > without logic.
-
- The core I tried to point out to Mr. Skinner is that he can't
- justify that the logical statements he showed are valid because
- people don't accept the core premisses as true. This is unlike
- the case of Eucledian geometrics where people at least could
- agree what a straight line is, and such constructs builds
- the foundation wherefrom logical arguments could be constructed.
-
- In the case of Christianity not even all Christians agree what
- constitutes trinity, and thus to use Christian building blocks
- to create logical statements is in my humble opinion something
- that may or may not be true, but that can't be never argued about.
- This is a very different situation than in the case of mathematics,
- and I hope Skinner would realize this some day.
-
- As a good counter argument, we don't have mathematicians arguing
- about the building blocks of logic, but we have theologians
- arguing about the Christian doctrine building blocks.
-
- > Whoever corrects a mocker invites insult;
- > whoever rebukes a wicked man incurs abuse.
- > Do not rebuke a mocker or he will hate you;
- > rebuke a wise man and he will love you.
-
- Just as a side note, I don't hate Mr. Skinner even if his
- emails are sometimes, eh, a little bit too personal for my
- taste. Just to cite the Bible once again :-):
-
- LUK 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O
- Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the
- wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for
- so it seemed good in thy sight.
-
- Cheers, and have a nice holiday, even you Mr. Skinner!
-
- Kent
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