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- From: iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Ivan A Derzhanski)
- Newsgroups: alt.atheism
- Subject: Re: Is Santa Claus God?
- Message-ID: <12197@scott.ed.ac.uk>
- Date: 22 Dec 92 21:19:16 GMT
- References: <BzMv94.KpG@dale.cts.com>
- Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK
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- In article <BzMv94.KpG@dale.cts.com> npm@dale.cts.com (Nancy Milligan) writes:
- >There was an article in "Free Inquiry" about a woman who strongly
- >believed it was wrong to tell your children about Santa Claus.
- >First of all, you're lying to them and what is more devastating
- >to a child than to find that their own parents are liars.
-
- There is lying and lying. Just because you tell someone something
- that you know is not true doesn't necessarily make you a liar.
- There was a time when my parents told me that my gifts came from
- Father Frost (the secular counterpart of Santa Claus). I soon
- realised that this was not exactly the case, but I never thought that
- my parents were liars, just that we had been playing a game.
-
- >Secondly, it gives precedence to believing in patently impossible things.
- >Maybe it paves the way to believing in other impossible things
- >later in life -- like God, fer instance.
-
- Or maybe it doesn't. Later in life the child's mind won't be the same.
- I used to enjoy living in all kinds of fairy-tale worlds, and here I am,
- a strong atheist, at your service. One can grow out of believing in
- patently impossible things, just as one grows out of feeding on one's
- mother's milk or locomotion by crawling. (Some never do, though.)
-
- >What do other atheists think about Santa Claus?
-
- Keep him in if you find him helpful. Which you may or you may not.
- I vaguely remember that it was a good thing to discover that the
- gifts came from my very own parents, not from some unknown old man.
-
- >And for that matter, how many of us celebrate Christmas? Should we?
-
- Well, my family used to, as a tradition -- a part of our culture.
- Naturally, all religious overtones were out. My grandmother used to
- sing a song which said that God had a baby, but that was not meant to
- be taken literally. It was just an occasion for a special family meal.
-
- I'm away from my family now, so I probably won't celebrate this year.
- Might as well skip it. One fewer reason to be taken for a Christian.
-
- >Even if we say we're celebrating the winter Soltice, that's still a
- >religious holiday for druids.
-
- Would we also celebrate the summer solstice? Do the Druids?
-
- --
- `D'ye mind tellin me whit the two o ye are gaun oan aboot?' (The Glasgow
- Ivan A Derzhanski (iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk; iad@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu) Gospel)
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