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- From: iikkap@mits.mdata.fi (Iikka Paavolainen)
- Subject: Re: iq<->religion: connection?
- Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 01:18:29 GMT
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- In article <BzMCF5.12C.1@cs.cmu.edu> rhuss+@EDRC.CMU.EDU (Robert Huss) writes:
- >
- > It is safe to assume that the more intelligent people will have
- >thought about their beliefs more, and will probably reject many fundementalist
- >concepts. Of my more intelligent friends, I would say they are certainly
- >more tolerant of other beliefs, and more likely to be liberally religious,
- >if not atheist. Clear thinking is great, and we all like to be clear thinking
- >and have clear thinking friends, but clear thinking doesn't mean you will
- >become an athiest. I have intelligent friends who have questioned the faith
- >that they were brought up in, but have still come to terms with some form
- >of religion, and are definitely not atheists. I would say that it is highly
- >unlikely that you will become an atheist if you were raised in a certain
- >religion, and are not very intelligent. Without intelligence it is difficult
- >to change any views that you were socialized towards.
- > I think it is very dangerous to start believing that any group
- >you belong to is inherently supperior. This has been believed time and
- >time again, and has been wrong time and time again. It is likely that we
- >atheists tend to have friends who are atheists. Therefore, the people
- >we know are both intelligent and atheist. This is not a very good
- >reference for statistics.
-
- Intelligence is superior to stupidity, but atheism is not an equate to
- intelligence. Thus, atheism is not 'superior' to religion.
-
- > IMHO, intelligence will lead you to clear thinking, which may lead
- >you to atheism, but I think clear thinking will also lead you to tolerance.
- >Discussions like this are just breeding grounds for missunderstanding and
- >anger. Especially comments like your last sentence.
-
- Tolerance comes from the environment you were brought up in. Since I was 13 I
- already found loopholes in Christianity as it was taught to me, and so many
- stupid and ridiculous things were told to me. Then when I removed myself from
- church records (=became an atheist), people looked at me as I was some sort of
- wacko. I'm afraid that as long as Christians don't have tolerance for atheists,
- and don't stop pestering them, I cannot have tolerance for them.
-
- Your second last sentence seems quite pointless, as, as a fact, intelligence
- is directly in relation to a person's faith, but like most things in this world
- , it isn't absolute, of course.
-
- My last comment still holds. Read the FAQ.
-
- >
- >Bob Huss.
-
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