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- From: orwell@erich.triumf.ca (BALDEN, RON)
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- Subject: Re: A pacifist's call for conditional support for US action in Somalia
- Date: 23 Dec 1992 00:22 PST
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- Summary: The U.N. is an instrument of U.S. (undemocratic) foreign policy
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- In article <1992Dec19.001649.16585@mtek.com>, bud@mtek.com (Bud Hovell)
- commenting on Doug Foxvog's posting:
-
- >...
- >Your unalloyed admiration of the intent of the Gen-Sec may need rather
- >urgent re-examination if solutions by military action give you excessive
- >heartburn. Turning our military into the world's police force is not
- >transformed from a "bad idea" into a "good idea" merely because the
- >decision to do so is made by U.N. politicians (whom none of us voted for),
- >rather than own wretched government politicians who survived the last
- >electoral farce.
- >
- >Put another way: to whom is the *U.N.* really accountable in any mean-
- >ingful way, if it creates another stupid quagmire, the outcome of which
- >affects absolutely NO vital interest of the United States?
- >--
-
- Bud is misinterpreting the evidence here. The United Nations was conceived
- as an instrument for the foreign policy of the United States and for
- much of its existence has served tolerably well in this role (e.g. as
- a front for the U.S. invasion of South Korea) when it did not (e.g. was
- being outvoted by 152 to 2 in the General Assembly over Star Wars) it was
- simply ignored. What *is* true is that the *foreign policy* of the
- United States has **never been in the slightest regard an expression of
- the democratic will of the citizens of the United States**, whatever one
- thinks of the state of U.S. domestic democracy. (BTW, this is true generally
- of *all* the Western industrial democracies.) The redirection of the
- antagonism of the U.S. population aware of this fact towards the
- United Nations is a convenient "us versus them" ploy.
-
- The 1964 election of Lyndon Johnson is an excellent example of the
- thesis; Johnson was elected by (I believe) the largest popular
- majority in American history -- 2 to 1 -- over Barry Goldwater,
- because Johnson presented himself as the responsible "peace"
- candidate, even as he and his advisors were planning to massively step
- up the American attack against South Vietnam.
-
- For my first assertion, see Gabriel Kolko's "The Politics of War: The World and
- United States Foreign Policy, 1943-45" (originally 1968, reprinted 1990,
- Pantheon Books, with a new preface and epilogue by the author.
- (Kolko's "Confronting the Third World: U.S. Foreign Policy 1945-1980"
- (Pantheon, 1988) is also excellent.)
-
- To quote (pg. 279, 1990 Pantheon paperback edition -- Kolko further on devotes
- a full chapter to the subject, "The United Nations and American Global
- Interests"):
-
- " ... By Yalta the United States was well on its way to creating moral
- rhetoric around the United Nations that it used to set a standard of
- conduct for others, but which only obfuscated America's own intentions
- and the purposes of the organization. Since the other Great Powers
- could hardly agree to work within the context of a world organization
- one nation so clearly controlled, they were left only with the
- alternative of working outside it, presumably for their uniquely
- selfish purposes. Thus the United Nations, even before Yalta, assumed
- the role of an American moral bludgeon against others, but in the name
- of a world community that the United States was in fact to dominate
- at the level of United Nations representation. The belief that such a
- world system would succeed was sheer idealism only in the sense that
- it was unobtainable, and not in that it was selfless. If Washington
- was about to declare the American century, the Russians and British
- would resist. ..."
- [Gabriel Kolko]
-
- [BTW, Kolko in the opening "Acknowledgements" of this book notes that he
- uses the terms "United States", "Americans", "Washington",
- "London", "Moscow" "solely as a form of literary convenience ...
- In fact what is meant is the leaders or rulers of these abstracted
- nations, the men who made decisions taken as a collective entity after
- they had settled their own differences. Where a specific group,
- faction, or agency is involved, I so indicate, but in no case should
- it be thought I am referring to the entire people of a nation. In the
- conduct of wartime grand diplomacy the people of all the major nations
- were the object of worried attention, manipulation, and, in many
- places, physical restraint, but nowhere were they consulted on the
- contours of the policy of any state." [Kolko] ]
-
- Ron Balden
-
-