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- Subject: Re: What is United States of America like?
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- Date: 29 Dec 92 01:38:56 EST
- References: <1992Dec19.232619.6118@nntp.hut.fi> <BzM8u5.JM3@unix.amherst.edu> <ATAYLOR.92Dec24172549@gauss.nmsu.edu> <23023@drutx.ATT.COM>
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- In article <23023@drutx.ATT.COM>, dlo@druwa.ATT.COM (OlsonDL) writes:
- > } In article <1992Dec22.194125.14451@kadsma.kodak.com> pajerek@telstar.kodak.com (Don Pajerek) writes:
- > } ...
- > } As I recall, the Bill of Rights contains a provision regarding
- > } 'unreasonable searches and seizures'. I would categorize both the
- > } IRS and DEA seizures as 'unreasonable'. Unfortunately, the Reagan/Bush
- > } Supreme Court, led by that friend of individual liberty, William
- > } Rehnquist, doesn't agree.
- >
- > The people who spearhead the seizures have argued that such things as
- > the 5th and 6th Amendments to the Bill of Rights apply only to *criminal*
- > cases. That is why such seizures are placed under *civil* procedings.
- > It is further argued that it isn't the owners of that property who are
- > being arrested; it is the property itself that is being arrested. And
- > since property has no rights, it can be taken without due process.
-
- That's interesting. So using this argument, the 'authorities' can stop
- me on the sidewalk, and take all of my clothes (being property which
- doesn't have rights), and leave me naked (afterwards getting arrested
- for indecent exposure)... Hmm....
-
- -Garrett
-
- >
- > Disclaimer: I do *NOT* approve of these tactics. I am just pointing
- > out the arguments that the powers-that-be have used to rationalize them.
- > --
- > David Olson dlo@druwa.ATT.COM
- > "Keep in mind that I am speaking from Cambridge Massachusetts, which is
- > about as far out as you can get." Robert Reich, economic advisor to
- > Bill Clinton, on "This Week with David Brinkley" 11/08/92
-