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- From: pajerek@telstar.kodak.com (Don Pajerek)
- Subject: Re: What is United States of America like?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.173053.4908@kadsma.kodak.com>
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- Reply-To: pajerek@telstar.kodak.com (Don Pajerek)
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- References: <1992Dec19.232619.6118@nntp.hut.fi> <BzM8u5.JM3@unix.amherst.edu> <ATAYLOR.92Dec24172549@gauss.nmsu.edu>
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- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:30:53 GMT
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- In article <ATAYLOR.92Dec24172549@gauss.nmsu.edu> ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy) writes:
- ><In article <1992Dec22.194125.14451@kadsma.kodak.com> pajerek@telstar.kodak.com (Don Pajerek) writes:<
- >
- >< >It has been *legal* for *years* for IRS enforcement personnel to seize
- >< >the assets of people whom they accuse of nonpayment of taxes owed. This
- >< >seizure can take place *before* guilt or innocence is established, and
- >< >recovery of assets in the event that the case falls apart has proven
- >< >to be problematic. The courts have *not* been striking this down.
- >< >
- >, >Do you plan to write your congress-critter about *both* abuses of con-
- >< >stitutional liberties?
- >< >--
- >
- ><
- >< Are you suggesting that because the IRS has been doing this stuff,
- >< I must: a) support the IRS in this behavior, and b) accept the idea
- >< that, because the IRS has been doing it, it is now a valid precedent
- >< for all law enforcement agencies?
- >
- >< As I recall, the Bill of Rights contains a provision regarding
- >< 'unreasonable searches and seizures'. I would categorize both the
- >< IRS and DEA seizures as 'unreasonable'. Unfortunately, the Reagan/Bush
- >< Supreme Court, led by that friend of individual liberty, William
- >< Rehnquist, doesn't agree.
- >
- > Are you asserting that the IRS did not have the power
- > to seize assets until 1981?
- >
- > Guess again, Pajerek.
- >
-
- Guess again, Nosy. I'm asserting no such thing.
-
- > And don't count on Frat Boy Bill Clinton, the "workingman's
- > friend", to do *anything* about it.
-
- 'Frat Boy Clinton?' I see, I must now be grateful to 'Skull and Bones'
- Bush for his dedicated support for individual liberty?
-
- And exactly who, besides you, dragged Clinton into this anyway? I'm
- not much concerned about Clinton's opinions, since he doesn't sit
- on the Supreme Court. I am concerned about the opinions of those who
- do, and who have a clear track record of supporting the state over the
- individual.
-
-
- Don Pajerek
-
- Standard disclaimers apply.
-