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- From: rsprice@pbhyf.PacBell.COM (Steve Price)
- Subject: Re: Life is Information
- Reply-To: rsprice@PacBell.COM (Steve Price)
- Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:00:20 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Nov23.170020.18787@pbhyf.PacBell.COM>
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- In article <69941@cup.portal.com> PLai@cup.portal.com (Patrick L Faith) writes:
- >> [life as information]
- >
- >I agree basically, with the caveat that life is the
- >ability to block and transform information - which
- >blocking and transfering must be balanced.
- [omissions]
- >
- >Some humans have the ability to block and transfer fairly
- >large levels of information. Other humans have the very
- >little information processing abilities.
-
- I think that the statement LIFE IS INFORMIATION is intended to be refer to
- much more than the highly specialized forms of information known as human
- language or the more recent extrapolations from natural languages that
- computers use to pass and store information.
-
- Living systems are embedded in complex fields of feedback loops; indeed living
- systems CONSIST of multileveled feedback systems -- electrical, chemical,
- physical etc. These feeback systems within and between living (and non-living)
- systems can be understood and modeled to a great degree by understanding them
- as information exchange feedback complexes.
-
- In this sense, every human being is constantly processing stagering amounts
- of information, whether awake or asleep, conscious or unconscious, clever or
- foolish, intelligent or clinically retarded. To breathe, see, smell, walk,
- grasp (anything in any sense of the word), grow hair, metabolize food, or even
- to die and decay involves literally mind-boggling amounts of information
- exchanged between an all most infinite set of complex systems ranging from the
- subatomic and quantum to the macro and cosmic scale.
-
- LIFE IS INFORMATION is a statement bearing much more information than is
- immediately obvious.
-
- The writings of Gregory Bateson on cybernetics and biology are very provocative
- and scientific explorations of the statement LIFE IS INFORMATION. Sorry,
- since I'm not near my library at the moment, I can't provide specific
- references.
-
-
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- Steve Price UNIX: pacbell!pbhyf!rsprice PHONE: (510)823-1951
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- We must live within the ambiguity of partial freedom, partial power, and
- partial knowledge.
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