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- From: TMakinen
- Subject: Challenge to the Kalkidom
- Message-ID: <1992Nov23.075119.14217@nic.funet.fi>
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- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 07:51:19 GMT
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- OK, Kalkii, here is a challenge for you.
-
- It is based on simple statements you have admitted.
-
- A) Viruses are living, thus they have consciousness.
- B) A man-made replicate does not have consciousness.
- C) Consciousness is independent of the material form.
- D) It is possible to determine whether something has
- consciousness or not.
-
- Now,
-
- Somebody suggested that the classifying can only be
- made by an illuminated person. What ever the method
- to complete (D) is, we shall call it here X.
-
- Then somebody puts one artificial (thus not conscious)
- virus in a test tube and nine natural (conscious)
- viruses in nine other test tubes and forms a row of
- them in a numbered rack. He writes down which tube
- contains the artificial virus. Note that the man-made
- virus is identical to the natural viruses in its
- material structure.
-
- Then the test tubes are carried to another person who
- does not know which tube contains the man-made virus.
- That person shuffles the tubes according to the
- instructions given by a computer random number
- generator. He also writes down which moves are carried
- out (like: swap tubes 3 and 8)
-
- Then the test tubes are carried to the method X, which
- is not able to get information of the previous steps
- of the experiment. Method X selects the test tube which
- has no conscious creature inside. The number is written
- down.
-
- The experiment is repeated so many times that the
- preferred accuracy is obtained.
-
- The results are checked.
-
- If convenient, just one conscious and nine artificial
- viruses per sample can be used.
-
- Shall we play chicken?
-
- Teemu
-