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- From: David.Rice@ofa123.fidonet.org
- Newsgroups: talk.origins
- Subject: Evolution probability
- X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
- Message-ID: <n0efet@ofa123.fidonet.org>
- Date: 19 Nov 92 16:20:10
- Lines: 47
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- Who: kv07@IASTATE.EDU (Warren Vonroeschlaub)
- ID: 1992Nov16.172443@iastate.edu
- With: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us ("Kali Dasa")
- And: igb@fulcrum.co.uk (Ian G Batten)
-
- [good-sized chunk hacked off here]
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- IGB> "My father could generate 2^23 distinct sperm. My mother
- IGB> could produce 2^23 distinct ova. Therefore, the chances
- IGB> of my existing are (2^23)^2, or 2^46. Now that's not such
- IGB> a large number: 1 in 70368744177664. But my parents are the
- IGB> product of the same chance. My father is only one of the
- IGB> 70368744177664 children his parents could have produced, my
- IGB> mother likewise, and I likewise of them. So that allows us to
- IGB> cube the number to 348449143727040986586495598010130648530944
- IGB> before we even worry about the chance of them meeting. And their
- IGB> parents. And their parents.
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- K> Again, then, you agree with us that life comes from life, since,
- K> as you say, it was your parents who produced you.
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- WV> "That is not the point he is making. Is English your native
- WV> language? If so, have you graduated from junior high yet?
- WV> This is such a profound misinterpretation of what was being
- WV> said, I don't think it is possible to get at the basic concepts
- WV> you seem to be missing without filling this message with
- WV> several megs of text.
- WV>
- WV> Suffice it to say that he is not talking about life from life,
- WV> but probabilities. the argument he gave has nothing to do with
- WV> life."
-
- Question to Kali: how many planets are in the Omniverse? Just how
- improbable it is that they ended up around their various star
- systems, in their various orders, with their various moons?
-
- Since Earth is just one planet out of "billions and billions,"
- you -must- know just how many planets there are--- otherwise how
- can you calculate just how improbable abiogenesis HERE is? If
- it is possible (p>0) why can't Earth be one of the few places
- where the improbable happened? (I am not saying life is improbable.)
-
- Will you answer "Read the book?"
-
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