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- From: scharle@lukasiewicz.cc.nd.edu (scharle)
- Subject: Re: More (verbal) Flooding of "the" flood
- Message-ID: <1992Nov20.125525.18902@news.nd.edu>
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- References: <1992Nov19.172101.23598@news.nd.edu> <1992Nov20.004006.15741@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:55:25 GMT
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- In article <1egl0cINN2ng@fido.asd.sgi.com>, livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
- |> In article <1992Nov19.172101.23598@news.nd.edu>, scharle@lukasiewicz.cc.nd.edu (scharle) writes:
- |> >
- |> > Does any Biblical literalist have a brief outline (or even
- |> > better, a detailed one) of world history of ancient times (say,
- |> > before 2000 BCE) which takes account of Egypt, Mesopotamia, India,
- |> > Europe (like Stonehenge) or the Americas? I'd suppose that there
- |> > would have to be a story about what got done before the Flood and
- |> > what after.
- |>
- |> Well, a while back, Mr Tun told us that it was easy to give
- |> a logical explanation of the fossil record on a Flood model,
- |> so I suppose he must know something about things like that.
- |>
- |> Unfortunately, he seemed to get very busy just after making
- |> that claim, and I haven't been able to attract his attention
- |> since.
-
- Actually, I remember seeing an old wall-chart of history which
- had the world beginning in 4004 BC or thereabouts, and did include
- some secular history in it -- but I don't remember enough details.
- (I'm going to see if I can find this again.) I'm not just trying to
- irritate creationists.
-
- Since then I have seen a couple of summaries of sacred history,
- but nothing with a tie-in to such biggies as the building of the
- pyramids, the population of the Americas, the megaliths of Europe, ...
-
- |>
- |> jon.
-
- In article <1992Nov20.004006.15741@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>, mls@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (mike.siemon) writes:
- ...
- |> Some Flood apologists attempt to evade the historical data by impugning
- |> the clear word of scripture (and the calculations of such men as the Right
- |> Reverend Bishop Ussher :-)) by waving vaguely into the pre-historic era as
- |> the time of The Flood.
- ...
- I know that there is a general lack of some historical sense
- about really ancient times -- sort of like if it's more than a
- couple of thousand years old, it's all the same time. I had heard
- a summary of a contemporary opera about the Exodus, which began
- with the Israelites slaving over the building of the Pyramids. As
- the Pyramids belong to 1000 years before the Exodus (the dates I
- have heard for the Exodus range roughly between 1500 and 1200 BCE)
- this seemed to me a whopper of an anachronism.
-
- Which brings to mind a characterization of an Italian opera
- which a mathematician told me -- "it's locally consistent". That
- seems to me the best that I can say about any Flood history, but
- the Flood histories don't have any redeeming musical value.
-
- --
- Tom Scharle |cm65n6@irishmvs(Bitnet)
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