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- From: ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer)
- Subject: Re: Abortion and humanity
- Message-ID: <1992Nov24.051439.14560@netcom.com>
- Organization: Netcom, San Jose, California
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- Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 05:14:39 GMT
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- frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes ...
- > ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) writes:
- >#So then, we're left with two equally worthless arguments. You want to
- >#make the set larger than do I. Who's right?
- >
- >The only point I wish to make is that we don't know who's right. Therefore
- >to attempt a definitive assertion about foetal personhood is unreasonable.
- >The question is undecidable. The correct answer to an undecidable question
- >is either to unask it, provisionally accept a guess until proven wrong, or
- >find a bigger system in which the question _can_ be answered.
-
- How do you unask such a question?
- Who's guess? Yours, or mine?
- And as for the bigger system, well, let's keep working on it.
-
- And besides, another possibility is that the question will become
- irrelevent. I personally don't see fetal personhood as being very
- relevent to the discussion. Even if it were, there is no precedent
- for allowing such liberties as the fetus takes with the mother's
- body.
-
- >#Maybe we'll have to use some other method of arriving at a concensus.
- >#How about one that produces the greatest good while avoiding the
- >#majority of the evils?
- >
- >Well, sure - but you cannot determine this without reference to values, which
- >so far have not made an appearance in the debate. "good" and "evil" are
- >relative moral terms, too, and while relativity is in, morality is out of
- >fashion.
-
- Is it? I see plenty of evidence for the existence of morality. Why
- do you think we're having this discussion?
-
- --
- Ray Fischer "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth
- ray@netcom.com than lies." -- Friedrich Nietszsche
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