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- From: smezias@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (Stephen J. Mezias)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: Running away with his tail between his legs.
- Message-ID: <33126@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU>
- Date: 23 Nov 92 22:19:15 GMT
- References: <1992Nov22.120346.21577@panix.com> <33081@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU> <1eraabINN3jq@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>
- Organization: NYU Stern School of Business
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- In article <1eraabINN3jq@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp
- (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
- >#
- >>In article <1992Nov22.120346.21577@panix.com> jk@panix.com (Jim Kalb)
- >>makes this stunning announcement:
- >>
- >>>I am unsubscribing from talk.abortion. Anyone who wants to continue a
- >>>discussion with me can do so by email.
- >[...]
- >>>Jim Kalb (jk@panix.com)
- >>
- >>Unfortunately for us, Jim will be back. His false promise of a speedy
- >>and permanent departure will only hold if he loses access to the net.
- >[...]
- >
- >I hope he does come back. He is evidently intelligent, seems to me to be a
- >reasonable person, albeit misguided, and I hazard a guess that he is also
- >politically involved. While you may disagree with his views, this does not
- >excuse subjecting him to warrantless insults. If this has driven the guy
- >away from the debate, and into the friendly cocoon of some active pro-life
- >orgnisation, that is nothing to be pleased about. I know of at least one
- >other person whom this has happened to, from email conversations. Perhaps
- >you might rethink your attitude.
-
- Personally I find Jim neither reasonable nor evidently intelligent,
- emphasis on the former. This time he was not ranting and raving with
- the same fervor as his previous appearance on Talk.abortion, but it
- was close. I don't know what it means to drive someone away from the
- debate; I also don't find that characterizing someone's views for what
- they are as warrantless insults. If I had started calling Jim an
- asshole or a dirtbag or a scumbag, then I might agree with what you
- have said. However, if someone is going to post pro-forced-pregnancy
- views on this net, they had better be prepared to deal with some stiff
- challenges to their views. This will be particularly true when they
- make baseless statements and refuse to deal with the logical
- implications of what they say. I saw your pro-life views here before
- you changed your mind, yet I didnt `drive you from the debate.' I
- would suggest that I respond to differences in the way people
- pronounce and advocate their views and treat them accordingly. I
- neither know nor care who told you I drove them from the debate here.
- If some advocate of forced pregnancy policies wants to pronounce their
- views, they had better be prepared to take some heat from me and
- others. After all, Jim not only killfiled me, he also withdrew from
- the group.
-
- SJM
-