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- From: perez@mgr.hjf.org (Charles Perez)
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- Subject: Re: Biological Reasons fo
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- Date: 23 Nov 92 22:31:44 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov22.182905.5766@desire.wright.edu> sbishop@desire.wright.edu writes:
- >In article <By4FI2.2vr@cs.psu.edu>, beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver) writes:
- >> In article <1992Nov21.234238.28627@midway.uchicago.edu> eeb1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
- >>>In article <1992Nov21.185550.25534@fys.ruu.nl>
- >>>johnston@fys.ruu.nl (Helen Johnston) writes:
- >>>
- >>>> Ulrich, Laurel.
- >>>> A midwife's tale : the life of Martha Ballard, based on her diary,
- >>>> 1785-1812 / Laurel Thatcher Ulrich. 1st ed. New York : Knopf : Distributed
- >>>> by Random House, 1990.
- >>>
- >>>>The book is based on a very detailed diary kept by Martha Ballard. The
- >>>>author describes how M. Ballard used to ask the mothers of illegitimate
- >>>>children who the father was during childbirth, as that way she was more
- >>>>assured of getting an honest answer!
- >>
- >>> ... And that sometimes/a lot of the time
- >>>the mother took advantage of this by naming someone who was
- >>>financially able to support her and her child.
- >>>
- >>>Of course, that's a very low brand of evidence.... But it does have a
- >>>certain plausibility to it, doesn't it?
- >>
- >> And a certain timeliness, too. ;-)
- >>
- >> Don
- >
- >Well, as someone who has given birth to two children, I can see the logic
- >behind the questioning during labor. It's not a time when you have the
- >strength or ability to easily come up with a lie.
-
- If the woman knows what to expect, she doesn't have to come up with the
- lie during labor, she can invent it beforehand.
-
- >I was able to answer
- >questions in one word sentencesand had a very low tolerance for being
- >'fussed with' by anyone. I do remember that a ham-handed intern came in
- >and examined me during my first labor. He was extremely rough and I
- >threatened to kick him in the balls if he touched me again. All manners
- >and courtesy go out the window when you are giving birth!
-
- I do understand that giving birth can be *very* rough. I recall Groucho
- Marx's short course on how a man can experience what a woman goes through
- when giving birth. It's easy; all he has to do is take his upper lip in one
- hand and his lower lip in the other, and pull them back behind his head.
-
-
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