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- From: lefty@apple.com (Lefty)
- Subject: Re: Let Keep the population down please!!!!!!!
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- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:03:24 GMT
- References: <1992Nov15.041148.5374@rigel.econ.uga.edu> <1eg0utINN6g0@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> <lefty-201192180819@lefty.apple.com> <1eqofcINNllm@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>
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- In article <1eqofcINNllm@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>, frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank
- O'Dwyer) wrote:
- >
- > In article <lefty-201192180819@lefty.apple.com> lefty@apple.com (Lefty) writes:
- > >In article <1eg0utINN6g0@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>, frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank
- > >O'Dwyer) wrote:
- > >>
- > >> I note that the Christian religions seem to offer salvation as a remedy for
- > >> original sin, and the penalty for original sin is not particularly severe.
- > >
- > >Beg pardon? Eternal damnation, outer darkness, wailing, gnashing of teeth?
- > > Not _particularly_ severe?
- >
- > The way I heard it, it was 'limbo'. Neither heaven nor hell. People who
- > believe in transmigration of souls believe essentially the same thing, it
- > seems to me.
-
- First off, limbo is, I believe, only doctrinal among Catholics. I am not
- aware of any other Christian church which recognizes the concept.
-
- Perhaps you can find some Biblical reference for this concept, hmm?
-
- Secondly, it "seems to me" that you are profoundly ignorant on the subject
- of comparative religion. I assume that in referring to believers in
- "transmigration of souls", you are speaking mainly of Hindus and Buddhists.
- Neither of these religions have any concept even remotely akin to
- "original sin", nor am I aware of any concept analogous to limbo, i.e. a
- place which is not specifically a place of punishment but in which one is
- stuck for all of eternity.
-
- If you think you know differently, please feel free to attempt to correct
- me.
-
- > >> The Church of Reason, on the other hand, offers a new kind of original sin -
- > >> a z/e/f is guilty of the crime of non-sentience, a crime for which it is
- > >> guilty until proven innocent. And the techno-nihilists are not nearly so
- > >> forgiving...
- > >
- > >Nonsense. Non-sentience is certainly not a crime, but neither is it any
- > >particular virtue.
- >
- > Well it buys you out of personhood, it seems. You just want to punish
- > women for having sex.
-
- What? Did I stumble into alt.non-sequitur here? Is the wind blowing out
- of East Germany, carrying hallucinogenic waste products and causing you to
- mistakenly believe that you're somehow making sense?
-
- Could you please explain to mew exactly how it is that wish to "punish
- women for having sex" by supporting no restrictions of the availability of
- abortion?
-
- Or did your train of thought get derailed somewhere along here?
-
- --
- Lefty (lefty@apple.com)
- C:.M:.C:., D:.O:.D:.
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