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- From: frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: Let Keep the population down please!!!!!!!
- Date: 23 Nov 1992 14:19:58 GMT
- Organization: Siemens-Nixdorf AG
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- References: <1992Nov21.112912.21827@rigel.econ.uga.edu>
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- In article <1992Nov21.112912.21827@rigel.econ.uga.edu> mills@uga.edu (Kathi Mills) writes:
- #> O'Dwyer
- #>> Ferrari
- #>>> Ray Fischer
- #>>>> DOD
- #
- #>>If DODie is an x-tian, he must believe that there is no such thing as an
- #>>"innocent unborn child," since, according to x-tians, all humans are born
- #>>with original sin which cannot be wiped away until one prostrates onself
- #>>to their chosen deity.
- #
- #>Here's an interesting piece of religious bigotry.
- #
- #Religious bigotry? I was just stating a widely-held belief among x-tians.
- #
- #>I note that the Christian religions seem to offer salvation as a remedy for
- #>original sin, and the penalty for original sin is not particularly severe.
- #
- #NOT PARTICULARLY SEVERE?! <choke> Endless torture in hell is NOT PARTICULARLY
- #SEVERE? Then postulate some punishment *worse* that never-ending fiery
- #torture.
-
- Limbo != Hell.
-
- #>The Church of Reason, on the other hand, offers a new kind of original sin -
- #>a z/e/f is guilty of the crime of non-sentience, a crime for which it is
- #>guilty until proven innocent. And the techno-nihilists are not nearly so
- #>forgiving...
- #
- #Very melodramatic, pinhead. Have you ever stepped on a bug? GASP! That
- #creature was guilty of non-sentience and you punished it! Point: a fetus
- #is about as sentient as a common cockroach during most of the time that
- #it is legal to have abortion on demand under Roe v. Wade.
-
- Point: You don't know what you're talking about. And do something about
- that "punishment" hang-up of yours, will you? It's obvious that you just
- want to punish women for having sex.
-
- #So unless you are an utter pacifist and have never killed anything, even >a
- fly, in your life, you are as guilty of discriminating against non- >sentient
- beings as you claim the women who have abortions are.
-
- I never said women who have abortions discriminate against non-sentient
- beings. My beef is not with women who abort, but with people who urge or
- recommend abortion as a solution, on the basis that a foetus has less worth
- than other human beings. While I believe that I am not entitled to a woman's
- reasons for abortion, and wish to see abortion remain legal (become legal,
- where I come from) nevertheless the idea that a foetus may not be sentient
- makes a big "THUD" with me, and in itself is a poor excuse for abortion.
- Follow?
-
- #>While I'm in the neighborhood, what is the motive for bastardising the name
- #>of Christianity in the above manner?
- #
- #You people (at least the ones who believe in original sin) bastardize your
- #own name quite effectively. I was merely observing the fact.
-
- Nice try, but I'm not a Christian.
-
- #Ferrari (mills@rolf.stat.uga.edu)
- --
- Frank.ODwyer@ap.mchp.sni.de "You take slaves when you make us free,
- when you make us free your way"
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