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- From: smithmc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Lost Boy)
- Subject: Re: The Silent Holocaust
- Message-ID: <By3yMq.8yv@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
- Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
- References: <Nov.19.11.14.25.1992.12839@andromeda.rutgers.edu>
- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 08:08:49 GMT
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- In article <Nov.19.11.14.25.1992.12839@andromeda.rutgers.edu> hauk@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Keira E. Hauk) writes:
- >I just galnced through this group for the first time, and I sense a lot of
- >hostility...You can all beat me down however you want, but it is nothing
- >compared to the silent holocaust going on every day in this country.
-
- Silent holocaust of what? The environment? Killer bees? Thinking people?
-
- >
- > For all those out there who have had an abortion or are considering it: YOU
- >MADE THAT CHOICE BEFORE YOU GOT PREGNANT!
- >Ok, excluding that small percentage
- >of rape victims who get pregnant. But for the majority, don't tell me about
- >your freedoms of choice. You made that choice the moment you had sexual
- >intercourse.
-
- In what way? Most of the ladies who I know who got abortions used birth
- control and this birth control failed. Some choice. Of course, you could
- go with the idea that one makes the choice upon dropping her pants. This
- leads to the problem of women who cannot have abortions for health reasons.
- Even if you state that such women should never have sexual intercourse,
- there is the case of married women who find out that they can never have
- children because of this problem...AFTER THEY GET PREGNANT. Do you really
- expect married couples not to consumate their marriage? Or could it be that
- such women are unmarriable? Hmmmmmmmmm, that would say an awful lot
- about your attitudes on women...
-
-
- >What CHOICES did that baby have?
- >And how can you tell me when
- >life begins? Can you prove to me that life doen't begin until birth? Can you
- >define life?
-
- I can and I did, in previous posts, including in response to one you put
- out directed specifically to me. (Ref. to "To Lost Boy...Thoughts Of A Fetus")
-
- >
- >What about the man. He's not always the one to push for the abortion. Doesn't
- >he have his choices also? Or do you also want the right to control his sperm?
-
- What about us men? As one man, I don't think it's a big deal. As for other
- men, I don't know too many people who are so hot to trot for a kid. As far
- as aborting a child and keeping this a secret from a husband, I know of
- lots of dysfunctional households where women simply can't talk to their
- husbands. In these cases, if women want to abort without consulting their
- husbands, more power to them.
-
- >These are just few of my many thoughts...And I must note that I wouldn't be
- >able to voice these thoughts if my birthmother had opted to have an abortion
- >instead of giving me up for adoption in Bogota, Columbia!
-
- Yes, and your mother CHOSE to have you. Doesn't that make you feel special?
-
- >
- >Also, I am a woman, if that makes any difference to you.
-
- It doesn't. Women are no more right on this matter for being women than
- men are. The only difference, and the most important one, is that women
- have to make this choice, not men. I for one see no reason to interfere
- with this choice.
-
- >
- > -Keira
-
- Lost Boy
-
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