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- From: kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy)
- Subject: Re: Male Choice Revi (1)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov21.194234.14911@rotag.mi.org>
- Organization: Who, me???
- References: <1992Nov20.011111.3228@cs.yale.edu> <By0uut.F7@cs.psu.edu> <1992Nov21.015024.17310@cs.yale.edu>
- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 19:42:34 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov21.015024.17310@cs.yale.edu> rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla) writes:
- >In article <By0uut.F7@cs.psu.edu> beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver) writes:
- >>In article <1992Nov20.011111.3228@cs.yale.edu> rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla) writes:
- >>>In article <BxzGIs.KtH@cs.psu.edu> beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver) writes:
- >>>>In article <1e8urpINNkjl@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com> regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:
- >>>>>Yah know, Will, you may believe this, but I don't. We've just seen Steve
- >>>>>Kellmeyer and Don Beaver come out of the closet on this issue: they don't
- >>>>>want women to have the right to abort. THAT's what they are after, and too
- >>>>>hell with the reason you mention, above.
- >>>>
- >>>>Short and sweet: Adrienne, you are a liar.
- >>>>No flame intended. Just fact.
- >>>In what way is Adrienne a liar, Don? Can you support this?
- >>
- >>I posted Adrienne's paragraph (above) for that reason.
- >>Adrienne made an explicit claim about me that is untrue.
- >>That's something I call a lie.
- >
- >It's not what I call a lie. I'm prepared to grant that it is not descriptive
- >of you, but you need to show that she knew it to be untrue for it
- >to be a lie.
-
- Are you saying that all lies must be deliberate, Eric? You have a narrower
- definition than I do -- I'd count something as a non-deliberate lie if it
- evidenced a reckless disregard for the truth. And the above is pretty damned
- reckless, if you ask me. Even if we disregard Don's views for a moment here,
- it's a well-known fact that Kellmeyer doesn't support any child support
- reforms. Surely Adrienne remembers all of his alarmist crap about people
- wanting to "weaken" child support? Does that sound progressive? Does he sound
- like a reformer to you?
-
- - Kevin
-