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- From: margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
- Subject: Re: Biological Reasons fo
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- Message-ID: <1992Nov21.022547.86943@watson.ibm.com>
- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 02:25:47 GMT
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- In <BxzFy1.KA3@cs.psu.edu> beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov19.203906.103034@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
- >>In <Bxy8KK.KwF@ddsw1.mcs.com> karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger) writes:
- >>>In article <1ebjs2INNmmn@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com> regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:
- >>>>How would you have the people of this net interpret this line? I have
- >>>>used your postings so far as an example to Will of people who feel that
- >>>>if they don't get what they want with issueA, then they WILL remove from
- >>>>women the right to abort. Is that or is that not a correct interpretation
- >>>>of your position?
- >>>
- >>>A correct interpretation of my position is that if women aren't interested
- >>>in equality in the reproductive and child-support process, then perhaps men
- >>>have it in their best interest to gain equality by removing choices from
- >>>women.
- >>
- >>He doesn't want a child. She doesn't want a child. If the birth control
- >>fails, they can get an abortion. If you take away this choice, you're
- >>screwing *both* of them. That's in *nobody's* best interest.
- >
- >But if your vote tips the balance, then by taking away (or threatening to)
- >a power held currently by women, you encourage those women (and men)
- >who otherwise aren't interested to support your position.
-
- But I think it would be wrong to take it away (as well as not in *my* best
- interests), so I certainly wouldn't do that. And I don't make empty threats.
-
- >In the long run, you support *everybody's* best interest, if you succeed.
-
- The end justifies the means?
-
- >>Sounds like a pretty stupid position to me.
- >
- >I wouldn't call it admirable (I would call it childish)
- >but it sounds like standard politics.
-
- Like I said, ... :-)
-
- >To call it "stupid" out of hand sounds a little shortsighted.
-
- Not "out of hand".
-
- >It may be stupid,
- >pragmatically speaking, if it gets regarded as childish -- but
- >this sort of technique works (and fails) all the time.
-
- So do other forms of blackmail. Doesn't make it right.
- --
- Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
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