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- From: don@ocf.berkeley.edu (Don Bromley)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.rush-limbaugh
- Subject: Re: rights and responsibilities
- Followup-To: alt.rush-limbaugh
- Date: 20 Nov 1992 21:58:27 GMT
- Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
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- >[followups to talk.abortion]
-
- >Do you really think it's reasonable to ask all the married
- >couples in the world to refrain from having sex if they don't
- >want any more children? Do you really think you will succeed in
- >convincing people not to have sex? Or could it be that you're
- >recommending a course that is totally unworkable & unrealistic,
- >and therefore ridiculous?
-
- This is classic liberal intellectual dishonesty. What fraction of
- women who get abortions are married? Maybe 1%?? What bothers me
- is how liberals aren't one-bit concerned about the millions of
- unborn babies who are vacuumed-up, yet the thought of a woman
- having an unwanted pregnancy sends chills up their spines. One
- of my best friends was born when his mother was in her mid-forties.
- I'm just glad some women think about more than what's immediately
- convenient for themselves.
-
- >|Abstinence is the only good method of birth control.
- >
- >Think about it this way: Abstinence is a remarkably bad method
- >of birth control if people find it so unpleasant they refuse to
- >use it.
-
- What about those people who find crack withdrawal symptoms "unpleasant"?
- Would you go ahead and give them crack and tell them to use it "safely"?
- Sorry, but sometimes "unpleasant" choices are the right ones.
-
- >
- >|It's obviously the only 100% certain method.
- >
- >What happens when a woman is raped?
- >And haven't you forgotten about surgical sterilization?
-
- Once again, intellectual dishonesty. Less than 1% of abortions are
- performed in cases of rape OR incest. And how many 13-year old girls
- are going te get sterilized?
-
- >
- >[...]
- >|Sure, sex may be fun, but be prepared to deal with all that it entails
- >
- [Sarcastic irresponsible drivel left out]
- >
- >|Everybody knows that there isn't any condom that guarantees no pregnancy
- >|will result. And they don't prevent the horrible diseases that can
- >|result from sex, either.
- >
- >Um, what horrible diseases result from sex? What horrible havoc
- >will sex within a monogamous relationship wreak upon the
- >unfortunate couple? You seem confused. Some diseases are
- >*spread* by sex, but not *caused* by them.
-
- So what's the best way to prevent diseases *spread* by sex? Oh-oh,
- am I implying that people should think with their brains and not their
- genitals? But that's no fun!
-
- >
- >|Hope I don't sound too old fashioned. But I'm only nineteen and I've
- >|already been able to figure this out. What's the matter with the rest
- >|of you?
- >
- >a) We've actually had sex.
- > or
- >b) We've actually had adult relationships.
- >Take your pick.
-
- c) We're just plain irresponsible.
-
- >
- >---
- >cj@eno.esd.sgi.com C J Silverio/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
- >"'Nonsense, errant nonsense, as ever was talked!' cried Knightley."
- > -- Jane Austen
-
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