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- From: regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.abortion.inequity,soc.men
- Subject: Re: Male Choice Revi (1)
- Date: 20 Nov 1992 08:03:32 -0800
- Organization: Hewlett Packard, San Diego Division
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- In article <BxzHMB.LvI@cs.psu.edu> beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver) writes:
- >In article <1ebu7hINNchd@gap.caltech.edu> peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri) writes:
- >>regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:
- >>
- >>>In article <1992Nov17.180422.14301@sei.cmu.edu> firth@sei.cmu.edu (Robert Firth) writes:
- >>>>In article <1eb9ucINNjb0@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com> regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:
- >>
- >>>>>People lie. We all know this. We *all* know this. Therefore, relying
- >>>>>upon the word of another person is AUTOMATICALLY stupid. That's where
- >>>>>the whole growth of the legal industry sprang from.
- >>>>>Now, if you want to be a disingenuous idiot, go ahead.
- >>>>
- >>>>Life is full of hard choices, isn't it? But, you know, if the choice
- >>>>really was that hard, then yes, I'd rather be a disingenuous idiot,
- >>>>than live my life in the manner implied by the above posting.
- >>
- >>What is so hard about donning a condom to protect yourself?
- >
- >Perhaps here's the problem: in the last couple of posts I've seen,
- >only the women seem to believe that condoms are highly reliable.
- >That's an interesting comment in itself.
-
-
- don, you are having a hard time getting you own reasoning straight.
-
- IF the woman WANTs a child enough to entrap a man, she isn't about to use
- a birth control method, is she? She isn't about to be thinking that condoms
- are 100% reliable, is she? No. THAT woman will support completely his
- choice NOT to use a condom.
-
- IF the woman DOESN'T want to become pregnant, she very well may use her own
- method of birth control -- and will probably tell him so, if he were curious
- enough to ask. And he may trust her birth control to be 'enough', or he
- may ACTUALLY engage the gray matter between his ears and figure that ADDITIONAL
- birth control is in his best interests, TOO!
-
- Now, if you are the random man, and you don't know the woman very well,
- you are going to have a hard time telling the difference between woman
- #1 who says, "Don't worry, honey, I've taken care of it" and woman #2
- who says, "Don't worry, honey, I've taken care of it."
-
- But the result of sexual congress with these two women is likely to be
- different in some significant fraction of the cases, right?
-
- So, what is a fellow to do? A THINKING fellow uses birth control HIMSELF.
-
- It's not foolproof (maybe that's your problem (-:), true. But it's a
- damned sight better than nothing.
-
- And a fellow can also push for better research funding of improved methods
- which has hit a real slowdown with the religious right making waves.
-
- Or, and this is the important part: he can go off on an unrelated tangent,
- an essentially punitive tangent that defeats his own purposes, and get
- precisely no where.
-
- Good luck.
-
- Adrienne Regard
-
-