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- From: frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.abortion.inequity,soc.women,soc.men
- Subject: Re: Abortion and humanity
- Date: 19 Nov 1992 19:54:31 GMT
- Organization: Siemens-Nixdorf AG
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- References: <1992Nov11.083200.5334@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> <1992Nov12.055927.1713@smds.com> <Bxru3y.FG6@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
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- In article <Bxru3y.FG6@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> smithmc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Lost Boy) writes:
- >Opinions are as good as the facts that back them up (simplpe Catholic
- >logic). Let's check out your opinions...
-
- [ Aborted child doesn't get to cure AIDs ]
-
- >I see two key statements in there. The first is that the Smiths would have
- >raised Baby Blue to be a good science student. The second is that the
- >reason none of these things happen is because this singluar, specific baby
- >was never born.
- >
- >If the Smiths are responsible for Baby's science achievements because of
- >her environment, then by impliction it would *not* have to be the singular,
- >specific baby in this example which the Smiths must raise to make all these
- >achievements. You could take into account inborn tendencies towards
- >science, but then this implies that these tendencies are genetic. Science
- >has demonstrated that genetics play a relatively minor role in what someone
- >may or may not achieve.
-
- Science my ass. You are telling me that if Shakespeare hadn't been born,
- that social conditions prevailing at the time in Stratford-on-Avon would have
- produced another one anyway?
-
- >1) Given Matilda's charicter as a lower-class criminal and drug abuser,
- >it is quite possible that Matilda has engaged in drug behavior that would
- >severely damage her fetus in the womb. Once Chelsea is born, what is the
- >likelihood that she will be brain damaged or a drug addict? This happens an
- >awful lot, you know. Friends of mine were taking prescription medicine
- >*before they knew they were pregnant* and ended up causing irreparable
- >damage to the developing brain, effectively destroying any chance the
- >fetus had for a full, productive life. Aborting the fetus was merely
- >finishing what the medicine had already done.
-
- Well my wife and I smoked like chimneys and drank like fish and we still
- managed to produce normally bright children. Maybe one day they will cure
- our lungs and livers for u, too.s.
-
- >2) Given Matilda's charicter, it's likely that she would keep the baby
- >(once born) to get an increase in welfare benefits. Your hypothesis
- >states that Matilda causes misery for whoever she deals with. This would
- >lead to the assumption that she would not be a nuturing mother for
- >Chelsea. Therefore, it is also somewhat likely that even if born, the
- >baby in this example will never accomplish what you state she will.
-
- Likely schmikely. The whole goddam point is it's _unlikely_. You can't
- have been reading closely.
-
- [kid that saves the world would never get adopted]
- >LOTS OF CHILDREN WAITING TO BE ADOPTED ALREADY.
-
- Very true. Explain me again why we don't kill those? I just want to
- remember why some people value human life.
-
- [...]
-
- >Lost Boy
-
-
- --
- Frank.ODwyer@ap.mchp.sni.de "You take slaves when you make us free,
- when you make us free your way"
- World Party - 'Ain't going to come til I'm ready'
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