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- From: frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: Quote from ME
- Date: 19 Nov 1992 17:41:46 GMT
- Organization: Siemens-Nixdorf AG
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- References: <sen9tso@zola.esd.sgi.com> <Bxvwop.M1x@access.digex.com> <shl2l14@zola.esd.sgi.com>
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- In article <shl2l14@zola.esd.sgi.com> cj@sgi.com writes:
- >
- >In article <Bxvwop.M1x@access.digex.com>, roger@access.digex.com writes:
- >|cj@eno.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio) writes:
- >|>In article <1992Nov14.151657.8820@panix.com>, jk@panix.com writes:
- >|>|If my greatest joy in life is torturing cats to death, does anyone
- >|>|else have the right to interfere?
- >|>Are you destroying someone else's property?
- >
- >|The local newspaper just had an item a few days ago concerning a man
- >|who was convicted of beating his (underline his) puppy to death. Do you
- >|think the state had a moral right to interfere with this man's puppy
- >|beating, CJ?
- >
- >The phrase "moral right" seems a non-sequitur to me. (I would
- >say, in fact, that the state shouldn't ever use "moral rights"
- >as justication for laws. The state has no business making any
- >statements about "morality".) The state might well decide that
- >animals are worth protecting for non-"moral" reasons.
-
- Name me a reason for doing _anything_ which is non-"moral"? You're
- so hung up about the inherent _morality_ of "Don't force your morality
- on me" that you want to rename it to be non-"moral". It doesn't work.
-
- Nope. It's time to come clean and admit that states do indeed force morality
- on people - the important point is that the morality a state uses must be
- very general, and be as broadly acceptable to as many people as possible, and
- be no more than the state needs to function. That is, one seeks to diminish
- the force, not the morality.
-
- >cj@eno.esd.sgi.com C J Silverio/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
-
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