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- Newsgroups: ncsu.general,talk.abortion
- Path: sparky!uunet!gatech!taco!jlharris
- From: jlharris@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHNATHAN LEWIS HARRIS)
- Subject: Re: The FUTURE is HERE!!!!!!!!!
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.174407.21580@ncsu.edu>
- Originator: jlharris@c00016-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu
- Lines: 64
- Sender: news@ncsu.edu (USENET News System)
- Reply-To: jlharris@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHNATHAN LEWIS HARRIS)
- Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
- References: <1992Nov10.231238.26386@ncsu.edu> <1992Nov11.010423.29483@ncsu.edu> <72148536517577@c00508-119rd.eos.ncsu.edu> <72149420218033@c00508-119rd.eos.ncsu.edu> <1992Nov11.212954.7881@ncsu.edu> <adams.721595322@spssig> <1992Nov18.220030.86964@watson.ibm.com>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:44:07 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov18.220030.86964@watson.ibm.com>, margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis) writes:
- |> >|> jlharris@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHNATHAN LEWIS HARRIS) writes:
- |> >|> > [What he wrote is further down]
- |> >
- |> >|> In a purely historical sense, the Bible is rightly grouped with other
- |> >|> ancient and modern religious texts. What's wrong with this? Surely you
- |> >|> don't need some sort of secular approval for the Bible! Either you believe
- |> >|> or you don't...passing a law 'approving' or 'sanctioning' the Bible doesn't
- |> >|> do one whit to increase or decrease the level of truth contained therein,
- |> >|> nor should it affect ones view of that truth.
- |> >
- |> >No, but I amn trying to get some credibility for it. And trying to make it not
- |> >just another old book.
- |>
- |> Why do you want to make it more than it is?
-
- I'm not, it it what you make of it, to me it is sacred to and atheist, it is
- kindle for the fireplace.
-
- |>
- |> >There are no laws against having sex, and there should not be any, there
- |>
- |> (Actually, there are; I agree that there *shouldn't* be any laws against
- |> consensual sex.)
- |>
- |> >SHOULD be laws prohibiting the ending of a life if precautions are not taken
- |> >while having sex.
- |>
- |> And if precautions *are* taken, but they fail? Would abortion then be
- |> OK according to you, or is this just a red herring?
-
- Like I said before, if you are reponsible enough to have sex, you have to deal
- with the consequences.
-
- |>
- |> >|> >Let's see, can't have prayer in public schools (my family=me),
- |> >
- |> >|> You can pray all you want. Even aloud. No official from the school can
- |> >|> lead a prayer. How exactly does that violate your rights? You can still
- |> >|> pray! And, by the way, what of Jesus command that you should go and pray
- |> >|> in private to God, who is in private, and not stand in public like the
- |> >|> hypocrites??? Hmm?
- |> >
- |> >OK, good point, I may have gotten carried away, and exagerated, even to myself,
- |> >but yes praying in public is prohibited, even if led by a student taking the
- |> >place of a leader.
- |>
- |> Praying in public is prohibited, or *organized* praying?
-
- Usually just organized, but some places open or public, even if just one
- or two students is not allowed.
-
- |>
- |> >Yes prayer is private thing most of the time, but sometimes
- |> >public prayer is neccessary.
- |>
- |> I'd like to see you prove that *praying* is ever necessary, much less
- |> *public* praying.
-
- Praying is something you have to do if you are in any religion, it is your
- own decision to prove that prayer is necessary, I can't prove it to you unless
- you are a christian trying to understand its importance.
- -Johnathan
-