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- From: margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
- Subject: Re: The FUTURE is HERE!!!!!!!!!
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- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:00:30 GMT
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- In <1992Nov17.202633.24525@ncsu.edu> jlharris@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHNATHAN LEWIS HARRIS) writes:
- >
- >In article <adams.721675706@spssig>, adams@spss.com (Steve Adams) writes:
- >|>
- >|> jlharris@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHNATHAN LEWIS HARRIS) writes:
- >|> > [What he wrote is further down]
- >
- >|> In a purely historical sense, the Bible is rightly grouped with other
- >|> ancient and modern religious texts. What's wrong with this? Surely you
- >|> don't need some sort of secular approval for the Bible! Either you believe
- >|> or you don't...passing a law 'approving' or 'sanctioning' the Bible doesn't
- >|> do one whit to increase or decrease the level of truth contained therein,
- >|> nor should it affect ones view of that truth.
- >
- >No, but I amn trying to get some credibility for it. And trying to make it not
- >just another old book.
-
- Why do you want to make it more than it is?
-
- >There are no laws against having sex, and there should not be any, there
-
- (Actually, there are; I agree that there *shouldn't* be any laws against
- consensual sex.)
-
- >SHOULD be laws prohibiting the ending of a life if precautions are not taken
- >while having sex.
-
- And if precautions *are* taken, but they fail? Would abortion then be
- OK according to you, or is this just a red herring?
-
- >|> >Let's see, can't have prayer in public schools (my family=me),
- >
- >|> You can pray all you want. Even aloud. No official from the school can
- >|> lead a prayer. How exactly does that violate your rights? You can still
- >|> pray! And, by the way, what of Jesus command that you should go and pray
- >|> in private to God, who is in private, and not stand in public like the
- >|> hypocrites??? Hmm?
- >
- >OK, good point, I may have gotten carried away, and exagerated, even to myself,
- >but yes praying in public is prohibited, even if led by a student taking the
- >place of a leader.
-
- Praying in public is prohibited, or *organized* praying?
-
- >Yes prayer is private thing most of the time, but sometimes
- >public prayer is neccessary.
-
- I'd like to see you prove that *praying* is ever necessary, much less
- *public* praying.
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- Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
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