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- From: daves@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Dave Stow)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: rights and responsibilities
- Keywords: abortion, slavery
- Message-ID: <1992Nov18.150024.2725@comp.lancs.ac.uk>
- Date: 18 Nov 92 15:00:24 GMT
- References: <1992Nov16.185223.13128@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> <1992Nov17.042749.7615@netcom.com> <1992Nov17.162237.743@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
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- In article <1992Nov17.162237.743@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> psmith@iies.ecn.purdue.edu (Paul Smith) writes:
- >Huh? Abstinence = no pregnancy. That was my point.
-
- Sure, and women never get pregnant from rape, and couples would be
- really happy-happy if they never got sex...
-
- Get out of my sex-life - I know what contraception is.
-
- > .... That's why I'm calling for people to behave
- >responsibly so that the government doesn't have to keep fixing our problems.
-
- ho ho - so everyone acts really sensibly, all the time. And guess what -
- there will still be unwanted preganancies...
-
- >I fear the loss of fundamental rights as much as the next person. That
- >is why I'm against things like gun control
-
- eh? You rant about people killing babies, but want to protect the right of
- people to wander around with lethal fire-arms...
-
- I've seen this quite often here in t.a, many of those who want to force
- women to endure pregnancy and childbirth that they don't want are also
- pro-guns. Odd. Maybe its that right-wing-oppression-of-the-weak thing we
- keep hearing about...
-
- >I don't believe that killing an unborn child is a fundamental right, ...
-
- but you think oppression and enforced pregnancy are?
-
- >Notice my "right now?" comment above? I think that if we don't pull together
- >and acknowledge that killing an unborn child is just plain wrong
- >*as a society* (and do something about it) then we face self destruction,
-
- Now I'm beginning to think you are taking the piss... (Brit. slang for
- having us on)
-
- Hands up all those who think abortion are good and fun things that everyone
- should experience once in a while...
-
- [waits]
-
- not many...
-
- Hands up all those who agree that though unpleasant and occasionally traumatic
- abortion is a necessary part of a society where pregnancies occur when
- they aren't wanted.
-
- Better...
-
- >I challenge pro-choice and pro-lifers both to move with me to the middle
- >on this. Let's do something instead of waiting for it to fall apart
- >around us.
-
- You? In the middle?? What???
-
- Lets see:
- You think people should abstain entirely from sex unless they want to have
- children?
-
- And you think that this would magically make abortions unnecessary?
-
- You're on another planet!
-
- Dave
-
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