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- From: decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dean.kaflowitz)
- Subject: Re: Yet more unsubstantiated stuff from Nyikos
- Organization: AT&T
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- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:13:02 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Nov18.131302.3359@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
- References: <1992Nov17.205311.28467@acd4.acd.com> <1992Nov18.062022.129536@watson.ibm.com>
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- In article <1992Nov18.062022.129536@watson.ibm.com>, margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis) writes:
- > In <1992Nov17.205311.28467@acd4.acd.com> wdo@TEFS1.acd.com (Bill Overpeck) writes:
- > >
- > >In <1992Nov07.073010.101799@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.ibm.com
- > > (Larry Margolis) writes: >
- > >In <1992Nov2.195513.1120@acd4.acd.com> wdo@TEFS1.acd.com
- > > (Bill Overpeck) writes: >>
- > >>>It wouldn't have mattered if it were *free*, Eric. This guy has
- > >>>two daughters who watch as he systematically destroys his life,
- > >>>his marriage, and his relationship with them. He cannot keep
- > >>>a job, so he stays home and "watches" his two-year old while
- > >>>nearly catatonic. The divorce is pending, btw.
- > >>
- > >>Then his problem is addiction, not drug use.
- > >
- > >Not according to him. He thinks his problem is stress.
- >
- > Whatever; the point is, you're not describing recreational use.
- >
- > >>I know people who've done the
- > >>same thing due to addiction to motorcycles, computers, ...
- > >
- > >Me too. The difference in those situations is that the
- > >individual *can* be available to those around him/her if
- > >warranted.
- >
- > Actually, the drug addict can be a lot more available than the
- > motorcycle addict.
-
- Story on another newsgroup a few months back about a guy. He
- said that before he started his hobby/avocation, he had a house,
- two cars, steady job, and was happily part of a family with
- a wife and children. Ten years later he had lost his family
- and owned a van, the clothes on his back, and the gear he
- needed for his hobby (it's a pretty expensive hobby, too;
- much more expensive than bird-watching and I think more
- expensive than skiing). This was because of his addiction
- to the hobby. Yet the hobby itself is a fine one, enjoyed
- by 20,000 people worldwide on a regular basis, most of whom
- hold down jobs and have families and enjoy the hobby and
- their lives. Many, if not most, of them put a great deal
- into the hobby, but they don't get so wrapped up in it as
- the fellow I mentioned. Is the hobby the cause of his
- problems or the addiction to the hobby?
-
- Bill, you know what addictive personalities are like. You
- also know that some people can use marijuana or cocaine
- and not get involved to any great extent in the substance.
- Alcohol too, for the matter of that. Other people try any
- of them once and become addicted in long or short order.
- The problem lies not in the substance itself, but in the
- personalities and susceptibilities of the user.
-
- As for the individual being available to those around him
- or her, availability decreases to a lesser or greater extent
- with any addiction. The computer addict will not be dragged
- away from his system to look at little Debbie's report
- card. He'll do it "later." The motorcycle addict won't
- be at Jessica's Little League game because he's taking
- Highway 1 with his buddies.
-
- Dean Kaflowitz
-
-