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- Path: sparky!uunet!acd4!TEFS1!wdo
- From: wdo@TEFS1.acd.com (Bill Overpeck)
- Subject: Re: Yet more unsubstantiated stuff from Nyikos
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.205437.28541@acd4.acd.com>
- Sender: news@acd4.acd.com (USENET News System)
- Organization: Applied Computing Devices, Inc., Terre Haute IN
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:54:37 GMT
- Lines: 79
-
- In <1992Nov07.074234.103493@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.ibm.com
- (Larry Margolis) writes: >
- In <1992Nov2.195802.1194@acd4.acd.com> wdo@TEFS1.acd.com
- (Bill Overpeck) writes: >>
- In <roig6q0@zola.esd.sgi.com> cj@eno.esd.sgi.com
- (C.J. Silverio) writes: >>>
-
- >>>How does marijuana use create "social/personal difficulties"?
- >
- >>The same way that any drug which impairs awareness and
- >>functionality.
- >
- >In other words, it doesn't, in normal social/recreational use?
-
- Oh? Response time is unaffected? Cognition is unimpaired? Mood
- is unchanged?
-
- >>Do some "weekend pot smokers" have families that are hurt
- >>by their drug use?
- >
- >Some? Probably. Any significant number? Probably not.
-
- Well, we know for sure that a lot of weekend beer drinkers
- have families that are hurt by their drug use, so I wouldn't
- be surprise if the relative percentages were similar.
-
- [...]
-
- >And why do you assume the parents are stoned all weekend?
-
- I don't. Nor did I mean to imply that.
-
- >Perhaps
- >they wait until the kids are asleep before breaking out the joint.
- >Or the martini shaker. Or the whips and chains.
-
- Only problem is, what if little Bobby wakes up with a raging
- fever and Mommy and Daddy are blissfully catatonic? They might
- as well not be home.
-
- >>Children and/or spouses aren't hurt by recreational substance
- >>use?
- >
- >Generally speaking, no.
-
- I've seen many who were/are.
-
- >>I think I've already answered this once. Alcohol is too firmly
- >>entrenched in our culture. "Calling" for its prohibition is,
- >>imo, quite futile. But there is no double standard here. I
- >>am well aware that alcohol is potentially far more dangerous
- >>than any number of illegal drugs. Since, however, it is highly
- >>unlikely to be subject to prohibition again, I think it makes
- >>sense not to offer a panacea of legal substances - the problems
- >>caused by alcohol are quite sufficient for any one culture.
- >
- >But perhaps if the safer drugs were more readily available, we
- >wouldn't have quite as many problems as we do when only the more
- >dangerous drugs are available.
-
- Good argument. It sounds logical, but I think it's hard to predict
- the consequences. Know of any history to support your contention?
-
- >>>I see the social/interpersonal fallout created by such problems
- >>>(specifically, drug abuse) on a regular basis. You apparently
- >>>do not. Perhaps someday you will have an opportunity to re-
- >>>evaluate your position.
- >
- >>>What social/interpersonal fallout?
- >
- >>Do you think it's non-existent?
- >
- >I've seen it from drug *abuse*, but the topic was recreational *use*.
-
- I've seen it from both types of users; it simply becomes more
- pronounced among those who use more frequently (and/or in greater
- quantities).
-
- Bill
-