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- From: walsh@optilink.COM (Mark Walsh)
- Newsgroups: soc.motss,talk.politics.misc,ca.politics
- Subject: Re: no obvious logic error [Re: How Many Homosexuals?]
- Message-ID: <13268@optilink.COM>
- Date: 18 Nov 92 22:54:42 GMT
- References: <BxuBE0.JDt@hico2.westmark.com>
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- From article <BxuBE0.JDt@hico2.westmark.com>, by kak@hico2.westmark.com (Kris A. Kugel):
- > : From article <1992Nov9.004823.3211@u.washington.edu>, by tzs@carson.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith):
- > : > One approach to estimating this would be to find some way to calculate it
- > : > based on other estimated factors. For example, 9% of men over 65 are
- > : > either single or divorced. Assuming that by the time one reaches 65,
- > : > even gay men who got married before they realized that they were gay
- > : > are likely to be divorced, this would put an upper limit of 9% on
- > : > the percentage of gay people over 65.
-
- If you sample only those who are >65 years old, and all that you
- can derive from the data are conclusions about those who are >65.
-
- > so no, this particular arguement doesn't deal well
- > with the population under 65, and therefore with the population
- > as a whole.
-
- My point exactly, and my reasoning for not including any of my
- previous text in this posting.
-
- > I also think that the process of evaluating it would make sure
- > that we are using a common terminology in discussing this.
- > (for example if instead we allow the definination of "gay"
- > to include those who remain married after age 65, and ignore
- > the situation of "married but not sexually active within the marriage",
- > then what will differentiate gay from bisexual?)
-
- Yes, this is very problematic. Tim's logic assumes that
- there are no gay people who are married. And what about
- bisexuals? Why do we keep forgetting about them? And a
- cap of 9% isn't terribly useful anyway since virtually
- all credible sources put the percentage of gays below that.
- If every gay person were to expire by age 60, you would
- still have a significant number of single folks >65.
- Also ignored is that fact that the population of men
- over 65 is changing so rapidly these days that nobody
- can seem to put a finger on it.
-
- I think that some posters here could use a statistics
- class or two...
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