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- From: sfsmith@pennsas.upenn.edu (Sandy F. Smith, Jr.)
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- Subject: Re: Sam Nunn (was Sam Num sucks and not well either)
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- Date: 18 Nov 92 21:40:08 GMT
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- In article <cornell.722032241@vivaldi>, cornell@inoc.dl.nec.com (C.J.K.) writes:
- >
- [about Sen. Sam Nunn (D-Georgia), one of a parade of hawks who threw cold
- water on President-elect Clinton's plan to lift the ban on gays in the
- military:]
- >
- > What exactly did Sam Nunn say? On news reports, I keep hearing reference
- > to something he said about a problem with privacy protection if the
- > military ban were lifted. What is the problem he stated?
- >
- > --- Cornell
- >
-
- My memory is not my most reliable ally, but I'll try to paraphrase what he
- said to Bob Schieffer on last Sunday's _Face The Nation_.
-
- The gist of Sen. Nunn's worries is that in an organization that requires its
- members to spend virtually their entire time together in close quarters (i.e.,
- barracks), the presence of openly gay personnel would lead to other (non-gay)
- personnel fearing that their personal [read: sexual] privacy would be
- violated [by the gay personnel], thus heightening intra-unit tension and
- lowering morale.
-
- This is merely the kindergentler version of an old canard from the Dark Ages
- that was given full voice by Gen. Somebodyorother, USA (Ret.), on _This Week
- with David Brinkley_ that same day. (The general in question served as head
- of the Joint Chiefs of Staff several Presidents ago.) To wit [again, a para-
- phrase]: "Once those queers get into the military, next thing you'll know,
- they'll be convertin' our fine red-blooded young men over to their preverted
- "lifestyle" and chasin' after any free [ass/cock -- your choice] what ain't
- covered!"
-
- Surprise of the day: *George Will* actually challenged some of this guy's
- assumptions on the show. (He did the same to the guest who spoke in favor
- of the move as well -- perhaps he was playing professor that day.)
- __________________________________________________________________________
- Sandy F. Smith, Jr. _____________>>New address: sfsmith@mail.sas.upenn.edu
- Graduate Division, School of Arts and Sciences, University of Pennsylvania
- 16 College Hall, Philadelphia, PA 19104-6378. (Opinions mine, not Penn's)
-
- "I doubt [the prospect of gays in the military] will have that much effect
- on the rank-and-file. After all, if we wanted our troops to have opinions
- on these matters, we would issue them."
- --Unnamed Pentagon official to a _Los Angeles Times_ reporter, as quoted in
- _Au Courant_, November 17, 1992
-