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- From: jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston)
- Newsgroups: soc.men
- Subject: Re: Elle MacPherson causes rape?
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- Date: 17 Nov 92 23:33:52 GMT
- References: <1992Nov8.003821.27694@ils.nwu.edu> <1992Nov8.190743.8606@dragon.acadiau.ca> <KYTAN.92Nov9125940@mantra.fia.dmg.ml.com> <2869@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>
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- Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA
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- dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch) writes:
-
- }I think a lot of people are missing the point. It is really difficult to
- }live in our society and not be bombarded with advertising. But the advertising
- }is a necessary, integral part to a free market economy.
-
- }Trish, how did you decide to buy your TV, or VCR? Chances are you saw
- }an ad for it. Why did you decide to buy the particular brand you did?
- }If you are intelligent, and I assume you are, it was because you thought
- }it was the best one. But how did you come to that conclusion?
-
- }Where do you go to buy your clothes? How did you find out about this
- }place? Was it, perchance, in an advertisement? For that matter, how did
- }you decide to buy the particular brand of clothes you wear, or food you
- }eat, etc.?
-
- I know this wasn't directed at me, but I thought I'd jump in here anyway.
- In response to your suggestion above, I looked around at my various
- possessions, TV, VCR, stereo components, furniture, car, computer,
- washer-dryer, clothes, food, etc. I am struck by how very few of my
- buying decisions were affected at all by advertising. I have a Zenith
- TV which I never saw advertised; I "discovered" it in the store. I have
- an NEC VCR which I never saw advertised. Same for the JVC stereo
- components. These items were purchased after going to various stores
- and comparing for myself what was there. I suppose that advertising
- may have played some part in making me aware of the existance of one or
- more of the stores, but it certainly had no effect on my eventual
- decision of which product to buy.
-
- I bought a Macintosh computer because a friend had one, not because I
- believed it would give me "The power to be my best". My clothing
- purchases are made by going to a mall and looking through the stores
- that happen to be there; not only does advertising not convince me
- that I "need" some article of clothing, but it doesn't even make me
- aware of the existance of the clothing stores. I'm actually a little
- surprised that you ask how people how they decide which brand of clothing
- to buy, as if the answer is so obviously that advertising has a large
- hand in such decisions. Do you really buy clothes simply because you've
- seen them advertised, rather than because you find them in a store and
- like the way they look on you?
-
- I buy food by going to the grocery store and getting the items that I
- need. When I have a choice of brands, I decide by a combination of price
- and my past experience with the particular brands. For example, I now
- regularly buy Ruffles Lite potato chips. But to the best of my knowledge,
- I've never seen them advertised. I saw them in the store, tried them
- and liked them, so I come back. Ditto for the bread that I buy, and
- the cheese, and the salad dressing, and the breakfast cereal, etc. etc.
- I will admit that occasionally, some advertising makes me aware of
- something that I wouldn't have otherwise known about. And, of course,
- sometimes I will try something that I've heard advertised, but if the
- product itself doesn't satisfy me, all the advertising in the world
- won't get me to buy it again. Oh, and I shop at Lucky's because it's
- close to where I live. When I lived near an Alpha Beta, I shopped there,
- the "low-price leader" ads notwithstanding.
-
- Honestly, I think that the largest effect that advertising has on me is
- the opposite of what the advertisers intend. For example, I will never
- buy a pair of Bugle Boy jeans, because the ads are insulting to my
- intelligence.
-
- Hey, I agree that advertising is necessary. How else would I get to
- watch Murphy Brown for "free"? ("free" is in quotes because I'm well
- aware that I pay for the advertising everytime I buy an advertised
- product, regardless of why I bought it. What I mean is that that cost
- is there no matter what I watch or don't watch on TV, so in that sense,
- Murphy Brown is free).
-
- --James Preston
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