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- From: zkessin@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Zach, the Lego Maniac)
- Subject: Re: Fraternal Reality From a Greek
- Message-ID: <zkessin.722187884@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>
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- Organization: Brandeis University
- References: <1992Nov16.150004.36@newton.hartwick.edu> <1992Nov18.001845.11979@midway.uchicago.edu> <1992Nov18.150031.21368@rtsg.mot.com>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:44:44 GMT
- Lines: 47
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- gatchall@rtsg.mot.com (Scott W. Gatchall) writes:
-
- >In article <1992Nov18.001845.11979@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
- >>In article <1992Nov16.150004.36@newton.hartwick.edu> buccim@newton.hartwick.edu writes:
- >>>Well, Well. (etc.)
- >>
- >>I'm curious why it is every pro-frat argument trots out the same tired old
- >>storyline ("you're just not in a frat", "we do a lot of philanthropy",
- >>"we've been around since 1776", "everybody joins a frat", "we never haze",
- >>"anybody who doesn't like frats watches too much Animal House") often
- >>with the exact same wording. It's just plain eerie. I've seen almost
- >>this exact same post in campus newspapers on two different coasts, and
- >>this is the third or fourth time I've seen it on the net. Is it part
- >>of the standard brainwas^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hpledging process?
-
-
- >Gee ... might this be a good indication that these 'pro-frat' arguments
- >are indeed true? hmm ... interesting question, isn't it Ted?
- True, yes relevent no. When Phi Beta Kappa was founded and whether or
- not frats have a tendency to rape are 100% unrelated. Plus Phi Beta
- Kappa is CoEd.
-
- >>And the
- >>bad they do can be easily alleviated by going co-ed and eliminating the
- >>pledging process without at all interfering with the good that fraternities
- >>do.
-
- >If you have been paying attention, you'd have heard that a number of
- >fraternities are co-ed and a number of fraternities have abolished
- >pledging ... but I'm sure that once this is fully implemented by all
- >that you'll find another of your 'flaws'.
-
- Well that is a BIG improvement. you might become respecable yet.
-
- >Bottom line: You weren't (probably) invited into a fraternity or
- >(probably) booted from one and carry a grudge. It's written on the wall.
- >I feel sorry for your inability to live and let live.
- Well I never had any desire to be part of a frat, When I got here I
- did A quick check of the frats and found I disliked them.
-
- --Zach
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