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- Path: sparky!uunet!tcsi.com!hermes!miket
- From: miket@hermes.tcs.com (Michael Turner nmscore Assoc.)
- Subject: Re: Hissing...
- Message-ID: <1992Nov24.042729.11230@tcsi.com>
- Sender: news@tcsi.com
- Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
- References: <1992Nov21.110040.6812@nwnexus.WA.COM> <By4z5o.HHB@world.std.com> <1992Nov23.000652.4047@netcom.com>
- Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 04:27:29 GMT
- Lines: 63
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- In article <1992Nov23.000652.4047@netcom.com> solovay@netcom.com (Andrew M. Solovay) writes:
- >In article <By4z5o.HHB@world.std.com> jcf@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman) writes:
- >>elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg) writes:
- >>
- >>> One of the women took me to task afterwards, telling me that I was
- >>>born this way, and that the contacts I had made only showed me the
- >>>'truth of my existence.'
- >>
- >>I think, however, that in describing this interchange you ought not to
- >>have stressed the sex of your interlocutor ("one of the women", etc.),
- >>as it is truly irrelevant & might be taken as slur on that sex. Men
- >>are *at least* as much given to that kind of claptrap as women are.
- >
- >I dunno... I think men are given to a different *kind* of
- >claptrap. When gay men hear that I'm bisexual, they sometimes act
- >amused and condescending ("I was bisexual once", "you're still
- >experimenting", "denial ain't just a river in Egypt" (pace Stuart
- >Smalley)). I don't experience actual *hostility*. Most of my bi
- >women friends, on the other hand, *have* experienced hostility
- >from some lesbians, who see being bisexual as "fraternising with
- >the enemy" or somesuch. The hissing sounds like that.
-
- Suggesting a tangent here: if bi's are going to be hissed at, how come
- we don't have a term of derogation by which we can chummily refer to
- ourselves, but that we can paradoxically getting huffy when used by
- out-group members? Can you think of a despised minority that doesn't
- have at least one such term?
-
- "Bi" is a kind of slang, but it's backformed from "bisexual", and is
- a little colorless for an epithet. "Homo" has, of course, a similar
- derivation, but it's but one of (probably) dozens of terms. Bi's
- (and bi-phobes) only have "bi". I've been trying to be inventive about
- this, but it's messy. Here are some possible starting points:
-
- confused - as in, "she's just confused about her sexuality
- right now..."
-
- traitor - as in, "I was seeing this great guy, but then one
- day he says he's getting married to a WOMAN tomorrow..."
-
- tricky - this one covers a lot of the nuances of the above, but
- but with emphatic overtones of sluttishness...
-
- bisexual - hey, this is an idea: keeping "bi" as the legitimate
- term, while relegating the more clinical term to the
- status of epithet. It sounds so H_I_S_S_Y when you lay
- stress on the second syllable -- perfect for those odd
- fits of jealousy ("If you weren't so biSEXual, you'd see
- what an airhead she is..."), regardless of whether
- you're bi or bi-phobic. Also good for vague poly-
- syllabic objections: "Oh, let's not go to Cafe X, it's
- just so...y'know...bisexual recently." I kind
- of like this one....
-
- It bothers me that these are all adjectives, though.
-
- Maybe there should be different terms for bi women vs. bi men?
-
- Or maybe I should just drop the whole thing and do something useful with
- my life?
- ---
- Michael Turner
- miket@tcs.com
-