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- From: winsor@geek.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (js)
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- Subject: Re: Oprah 11/19
- Date: 21 Nov 1992 16:53:45 GMT
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- |> A wise man once said "all things are true".
- Actually, a fool, IMVHO.
-
-
- |> There's another relevant question here - does it matter how sexual
- |> orientation is determined? If I want to be a star-bellied sneech,
- |> don't I deserve the same respect as if I chose to be a star-bellied
- |> sneech?
- I agree with that point vociferously! Whether by choice, destiny or good
- luck, I am what I am and that should be respected by thinking individuals.
- "No stars upon thars; they just aren't suited!" (just hadta get in a Sneetches
- on the Beaches quote, too :{) )
-
- |> What are "female roles"?
- |> What are "male roles"?
- |> Why are "dominant individuals" playing "male roles"?
- |> Why do heterosexual relationships have "male and female roles"?
- Yawn. There are flies around that carcass already.
-
- |> My claim is that trying to fit the notions of masculine/feminine to
- |> any sort of relationship is dangerous, and applying it to homosexual
- |> relationships is completely inappropriate. I think that one can never
- |> properly say "that gay man is masculine" or "that gay man is not
- |> masculine". We had a rather lofty discussion about this a few months
- |> ago on soc.motss. I've saved a bit of the exchange, if you're
- |> interested.
- Better now. And I disagree - politely, this time. It is my (mine mine mine
- mine mine mine!) opinion that there *are* distinctly masculine, feminine, and
- adroginous (sp?) qualities that are innate to people. That does not (notnot
- notnotnotnot!) mean that I belive that those qualities dictate sexual preference
- (please don't flame that word!) or sexual behavior or sexual frequency or
- *ANYTHING* at all. The quality just *is*. And adds color to the person's
- persona/personality. That's all...
-
-
- |> Now if you're really asking about sex, and you're equating "male role"
- |> to be "penetrator", and "female role" to be "penetratee", then we can
- |> have more fun talking about it :-). Again, I think the answer is
- |> basically "no", although many gay men express a preference for one
- |> role or the other in anal sex.
- Now, *that's* the interesting question to start a thread on!
-
- <lame smile>
- *HUGS*
- js
-