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- From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
- Subject: Re: NASA Coverup
- Message-ID: <1992Nov18.213847.1584@mksol.dseg.ti.com>
- Keywords: snarfy concedes
- Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
- References: <4608@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us> <1992Nov11.001713.12288@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> <83633@ut-emx.uucp>
- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:38:47 GMT
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- In <83633@ut-emx.uucp> wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Chester) writes:
-
- >In article <1992Nov11.001713.12288@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> hack@arabia.uucp (Edmund Hack) writes:
- >]In article <4608@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us> snarfy@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us writes:
- >]> I will continue , however to point out alternative theories to account
- >]> for various facts of nature. Theories are not science, but merely
- >]> suggestions of possible explanations for observed phenomena . An
- >]> alternate theory need only be logically and mathematically consistent to
- >]> be as viable as relativity , or any other theory.
-
- At least learn what 'theory' means when used in the context of
- science. First, what you apparently think of as a 'theory' is
- actually generally referred to as a 'hypothesis'. It doesn't become a
- 'theory' until it is somewhat more solidly based and compared to
- observed phenomenon than mere mathematical speculation.
-
- >]
- >]No, what you have is necessary, but not sufficient. It must also be
- >]testable and make some predictions about the universe to be as viable as
- >]relativity (General or Special). (This is true to first order. I am
- >]aware that there is some discussion in philosophy of science about
- >]falsifiability, as well as other nits.)
-
- This is pretty much REQUIRED for a scientific 'theory' -- it must
- exhibit sufficient predictive power to be falsifiable. In other
- words, it must predict things that we can go look at that we don't
- know the answers to yet, so that we can then go and see if the things
- that it predicts are true.
-
- >It also helps to be a bit diplomatic snarfy. Saying NASA, you are BUSTED is
- >not the way to get anybody to listen to you. Indeed, you appear to be both
- >an arrogant ass and a raving loon when you use such phrases. It's not kissing
- >up to NASA when you avoid what you originally posted, snarfy; it's called
- >being polite. Now, if McElwaine would only follow that advice.
-
- I didn't see the original post (I unfortunately don't read this
- newsgroup as often as I used to), but from this I would say that what
- was proposed was the standard 'conspiracy theory' sort of thing,
- coupled with the usual misunderstanding of just how rigorous the proof
- of something must be before it even qualifies as a 'theory'.
-
- See what happens when you don't keep up? You miss things like this
- one. (another Velikovsky fan?)
-
- --
- "Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
- in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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