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- From: ednclark@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au (Jeffrey Clark)
- Subject: Two sticky questions on astrophysics
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- Date: 16 Nov 92 12:21:34 GMT
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- This may display my ignorance but:
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- 1. Nothing can travel faster then the speed of light. Therefore
- gravitational influence takes time to travel. Therefore the influence of
- objects on the other side of the galaxy are being felt in our solar system
- as those far flung objects were some 80,000 years ago, yes? More to the
- point the massive centre of our galaxy (possibly contains a mega-black hole)
- will not influence us from it's current position for another 30,000 years.
- Now this (according to my naive musings) should not present a problem if we
- are orbiting the centre of our galaxy in a near perfect circular orbit, but
- I would surmise that our solar system would have some eccentricity in it's
- orbit. According to me the solar system is falling toward a non-existant
- centre and has been doing this (as all galactic objects do) since the
- beginning of galactic history. Should this not cause orbital deviations
- that are measurable? Can someone help me out here please am I missing some
- obvious relativistic point?
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- 2. An object is detected 15 billion light years away, pushing the beginning
- of time to at least that many years ago. But surely it pushes that time to
- double 15 billion years (ie 30 billion years). Nothing can travel faster
- than light. The object that generated that radiation did so 15 billion years
- ago from 15 billion light years away. But first we had to get 15 billion
- light years away from this object. Both the object and the particles that we
- consist of must have been together at the Big bang. In order for the light
- to have taken 15 billion years to reach us, the object must have been 15
- billion light years away from our current position 15 billion years ago. In
- other words the earth and the object relative to each other must have been
- travelling for some 15 billion years (at least) to get that far apart before
- the light was emmitted from far-flung object. Once again am I missing some
- obvious relativistic point or have I just doubled the age of the universe?
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- Jeff. These couple of questions have bugged me for years and I finally got
- sick of them. Depending on the answers I've got some other queries as
- well.
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