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- From: kraus@.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Dave Kraus)
- Newsgroups: sci.skeptic
- Subject: Re: Insults
- Message-ID: <1992Nov24.013016.13516@donner.SanDiego.NCR.COM>
- Date: 24 Nov 92 01:30:16 GMT
- Article-I.D.: donner.1992Nov24.013016.13516
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- In article <1992Nov23.152720@IASTATE.EDU> danwell@IASTATE.EDU (Daniel A Ashlock) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov23.171244.26285@donner.SanDiego.NCR.COM>,
- >kraus@.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Dave Kraus) writes:
- >
- > [endless discussion deleted]
- >
- >> It also might help to ignore the adolescent attacks of a person who strives
- >> to drag conversations into the mud. To substitute attack for intelligent
- >> discourse and thereby demonstrating lack of self control sure isn't going
- >> to help teach anyone how to grow up. What you've got to realize is that
- >> its a two way street. There are adolescents on both sides. Those who
- >> relish in hurting others by changing the subject with personal attacks, and
- >> those who haven't got the internal strength to maturely handle such attacks.
- >
- > Still beating that same tin pot, eh, Dave? If you are such a mature and
- >honest debater why on earth did it take three weeks and twenty five responses
- >for Cark Luydik(sp?) and I to drag out your admission,
- >
- > "I do not beleive it is possible to tell a psychic from a con man[1]" ?
-
- This is not about me Dan. Here is a prime example of someone stooping
- to the personal level. Why are you getting so defensive?
-
- >> Do you really feel that the only problem is that we have got a bunch of
- >> whiners out there? Do you really think that the use of insults also does
- >> not reflect an adolescent approach to discussion?
- >
- > For the 10^5th time: the insults are a secondary or tertiary line of defense
- >against poeple who waffle, equivocate, duck, dodge, change the subject, deny
- >the reality of the game after agreeing to play, etc. etc. Yourself, for
- >example.
-
- Why can't you show them when they waffle, duck,dodge, etc. Why attack?
- What does it accomplish? Are you saying that using insults is the mature
- way to handle people who duck issues?
-
- Rick talks about the immaturity of those who are over-sensitive to insults.
- My point is that it is also immature to use insults as a method of argument.
- It is as simple as that. I'm not interested in all your explanations of why
- people insult others. The point is that it is immature. Do you disagree?
- Try to stick to the point this time.
-
- >
- >> Dave.Kraus@SanDiego.NCR.COM |
- >> (619) 485-2504 |
- >
- >Dave, this is the .sig I insulted you into adopting. No assinine
- >paranormalist quotes or anything. Does this mean you don't have
- >the maturity to handle the attacks? If not, why cave in to my
- >immature adolescent behavior?
-
- My maturity is not at issue here. If in fact I have caved in to your immature
- behavior, that doesn't all of a sudden make your behavior mature, does it?
-
- > The key point here is that you beleive in something improbable
- >because of unrepeatable personal experiences and are thrashing about
- >trying to find something to justify them This is all fine; except that
- >you do it ON SCI.SKEPTIC. Nuff said.
-
- Again, way off the subject. I actually find it interesting to converse
- in this newsgroup. I don't really expect to win anybody over to what I believe.
- I hope that some of what I say registers on a few minds out there. I take
- pride in the fact that at one point I actually shamed you into having
- a rational discussion with me awhile back. I know its really hard for you
- to make it through any discussion without bringing your opponent's
- personality into question.
-
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