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- From: jlg@cochiti.lanl.gov (J. Giles)
- Subject: Waves or particles, irreconcilable? (was: Reconciling OT with NT)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.194654.10657@newshost.lanl.gov>
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- Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
- References: <1992Nov16.032613.11967@netcom.com> <1ead9cINN8a5@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> <1992Nov17.173850.14175@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> <1efhvcINNcin@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:46:54 GMT
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- In article <1efhvcINNcin@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>, frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
- |> In article <1992Nov17.173850.14175@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:
- |> [...]
- |> >>Did you all have the same problem with wave-particle duality?
- |> >>Lemme see. Light is particle and light is wave. I cannot reconcile these
- |> >>ideas without throwing out all preconceived notions. You say wave and
- |> >>I say particle, let's call the whole thing off.
- |> >
- |> >Sigh. More quantum pseudoscience.
- |>
- |> >Light acts like a particle sometimes and like a wave sometimes.
- |>
- |> You accuse _me_ of pseuodscience, and then you say this?
-
- Quanta are *neither* particle *nor* waves. No part of the present
- theoretical model requires them to be. They are quanta. In the
- aggregate, they uniformly obey a set of statistical equations
- with amazing accuracy and there has never yet (that I know of)
- been any irreconcilable behavior shown by these things.
-
- The problem you're *both* having is that you're trying to apply
- conventional macroscopic terms like "particle" and "wave" to
- objects for which there is no reason be believe such terms
- might apply. The only thing your apparent inconsistancies
- show is that the terminology you're attempting to apply is
- inappropriate.
-
- (To be sure, there are *interpretations* of the present physical
- model which loosely use the terms "particle" and/or "wave" for
- QM objects. This is a result of the historical development of
- the field as well as the inertia of certain people against new
- ideas.)
-
- --
- J. Giles
-