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- From: kraus@.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Dave Kraus)
- Subject: Re: Insults
- Message-ID: <1992Nov18.171513.4431@donner.SanDiego.NCR.COM>
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- Reply-To: kraus@cheers.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Dave Kraus)
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- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:15:13 GMT
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- In article <722073998.1@wyrm.rbbs-net.ORG> Rick.Moen@f207.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (Rick Moen) writes:
- >> From: marlowe@paul.rutgers.edu (Thomas Marlowe)
- >> Message-ID: <Nov.10.09.17.11.1992.21575@paul.rutgers.edu>
- >>
- >> In the thread 'Gender-Neutral Pronoun', there has been some discussion
- >> about whether someone can insult you without intending to insult you
- >> in particular.
- >>
- >> I would maintain, yes, they can, in the same way that a gunman atop a
- >> water tower can shoot into a crowd, not intending to kill any known
- >> individual in particular, and still commit murder. In fact, if a
- >> bomber sets off a bomb, not knowing for certain whether there will
- >> even be people present, but people die, it can still be murder.
- >> ...
-
- >I think the best solution is the only one that will absolutely,
- >positively keep the bulk of this blithering out of newsgroups:
- >universal insensitivity -- a truly liberating idea whose time has
- >come.
-
- Are you talking about robots, or are you talking about human beings?
- It would be nice to be able to discuss ideas without emotion, but
- it is human nature to become personally involved with ideas one believes
- in. This is true for insulters and insultees alike. Ideally it would
- be great if we could detach our emotions from our beliefs, but I have known
- few who can do so.
-
- >As long as proclaiming one's self "insulted" is an effective way to get
- >attention, people who see themselves as power-deprived will continue
- >to seek the eradication of "insults" as an alternative to substantive
- >improvement of their condition. Hypersensitive noisemaking, however
- >emotionally satisfying to some, is a poor substitute for progress.
-
- I would agree with you, except to add that the insult is often used
- as a tool by the insulter to intimidate, or change the subject from
- a discussion of ideas to a discussion of personalities.
-
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