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- From: graeme@fulcrum.co.uk (Graeme Hodgson)
- Subject: Re: Bicameral Mind
- Message-ID: <BxxAHo.239@fulcrum.co.uk>
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- Organization: Fulcrum Communications
- References: <1992Nov17.163806.28341@iplmail.orl.mmc.com>
- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:41:47 GMT
- Lines: 56
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- In article <1992Nov17.163806.28341@iplmail.orl.mmc.com> markb@iplmail.orl.mmc.com (Mark Bower) writes:
- >Hello. I am new to this newsgroup and Psychology in general.
-
- Me too! Interesting isn't it? How many others out there are
- amateur psyches? If there are any others in the UK, do you know
- of any recommended texts for A-level - particularly in the area of
- developmental psychology?
-
- >Recently, I started reading Julian Jayne's _Origin_of_Consciousness_
- >and_the_Breakdown_of_the_Bicameral_Mind and found his central
- >concept fascinating and _internally_ consistent.
-
- What was his central concept? I don't know of the book!
-
- >I am wondering what has become of his work since it was published.
- >My book lists a publish date of the early seventies ( I don't have it
- >with me). Has his work been corroborated, rejected, ignored, extended,
- >of otherwise pursued?
- >
- >If it has been discarded, what other research/theories have arisen
- >to explain the ubiquitousness of god/gods/religion in virtually all
- >societies and their overwhelming similarities?
- >
- >I have read some of the work of Joseph Campbell who clearly identifies
- >the similarities in the context, content, and importance of myths in
- >the human view of God, but he never _really_ addresses how we humans
- >arrived at the need/realization of gods/a god.
-
- I take it from the above that the subject was man's (and woman's!)
- fascination with gods and religion. I remember reading some articles
- on this a while back and most commentators seemed to agree that it
- was a mechanism invented for the explanation of unknown phenomena
- observed in nature.
-
- Man feels a compulsion to understand how and why things happen and
- when this cannot be explained by current understanding seeks to use
- myths, legends, gods and the supernatural in general to provide an
- explanation. This would seem to be confirmed by our apparent
- rejection of religion as our scientific knowledge becomes more and
- more complete.
-
- >All other work I have seen appears to limit it's academic concern to
- >the aquisition of speech, bipedal gait, visual communication, tools,
- >and other behaviors. Everyone seems to ignore consciousness. Is it in
- >the "too hard" pile? I have read Edelman's Neural_Darwinism and The_
- >Remembered_Present which gave excellent possible models of current
- >human cognition. Has anyone tried outlining a _developmental_ mechanism
- >for this model?
-
- I think you're probably right - better to stick to the less tricky
- subjects!
-
- >I count 4 "?" above so I guess that's enough for now! :-) Thanks to
- >anyone who can help. Mark.
-
- Graeme.
-