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- From: bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris)
- Subject: Re: Electric Power Transmission
- Organization: Motorola, CCR&D, CORP, Schaumburg, IL
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:16:57 GMT
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- In article <HAGERMAN.92Nov19204019@rx7.ece.cmu.edu> hagerman@ece.cmu.edu (John Hagerman) writes:
- )In article <1992Nov19.202817.29139@sfu.ca> palmer@sfu.ca (Leigh Palmer) writes:
- )>
- )> Wow. Thanks for the information, John. I hope someone will be able
- )> to drop the other shoe and tell us where to learn more about this
- )> twenty-year-old technology.
- )
- )Your ability to communicate sarcasm without a smiley is nice to see.
- )But I fear that your comments may mask one important point of my post,
- )which was to demonstrate that many of the questions asked here can be
- )sufficiently answered by a tiny bit of research. Need I explain why
- )actually doing such research is useful?
- )
- )I have visited a hydroelectric plant, and it was rather interesting.
- )Also of interest is the issue of grid phase maintenance, about which
- )there have been many guesses and few facts posted, and about which my
- )encyclopedia is mute.
-
- The way I vaguely remember things from college, the phase of a generator
- with respect to the 'grid' determined the direction and amount of power
- flow. The generator and grid were modelled as being connected together
- by some inductance.
-
- In one phase direction, the generator contributed power to the grid. In
- the opposite phase, the generator *took* power from the grid (and acted as
- a motor).
-
- An interesting analogy is a mechanical one. Consider the grid to be like
- a rotating shaft. The coupling of the generator to the grid via an
- inductor acts like connecting a (crank-driven) rotating wheel to the rotating
- shaft via a spring. In one direction, the spring adds energy to the shaft,
- 'pulling it along', in the other direction the spring acts as a load
- on the shaft, taking energy away.
-
- [The mathematical analogy is to assume voltage is like velocity and
- that current is like force. The vector product of voltage and current is
- power. v = L * di/dt across an inductor, so the intergal of the voltage
- across an inductor is proportional to the instantaneous current.
- Similarly the intergal of the velocity across a spring (the position) is
- proportional to the force provided by the spring. Capacitance acts
- like mass with this mechanical analogy, resistance like some form of
- friction damping.]
-
- However, I'm not sure how global frequency/power regulation is done either.
- Like the analogy with the rotating shaft, I'd expect that the grid frequency
- and voltage would tend to rise when too much power was being fed into it
- (compared to the total load on the grid), and drop when too little power was
- being fed, but how the overall power regulation is done is something I don't
- quite understand (I suspect that's what all those power engineering courses
- are about :-)).
-
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