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- From: sichase@csa1.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Communicating Physics (was Re: Detecting crackpots - for laymen?)
- Date: 18 Nov 1992 10:50 PST
- Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
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- In article <1992Nov17.231944.13221@meteor.wisc.edu>, tobis@meteor.wisc.edu (Michael Tobis) writes...
- >
- >I think that the question of how to distinguish nonsense from science is
- >a very serious one, though I am not sure this is the appropriate forum
- >to discuss it. Physicists do tend to think of themselves as an elite,
- >rather than in the public employ, and tend to be particularly weak in
- >conveying their ideas to the public.
-
- I'm not so sure that this is true. Ask a random person on the street
- to tell you anything about modern biology - something you couldn't find
- in a textbook written in 1950. How about chemistry? I think you would
- find many more people who could tell you lots of qualitative stuff
- about physics in the last 40 years than either of these other hard
- sciences. The Big Bang and the CMBR, quarks, high Tc superconductivity,
- supernova observations, chaos, etc. are all, I think, widely known parts of
- modern physics.
-
- >This is certainly due in part to
- >the nature of the material, but one might wish that more effort could be
- >made. Judging from this newsgroup my assiduous reading of pop physics
- >(and my feeble attempts to get something out of the Scientific American
- >articles on particle physics) have still left me forty years behind on
- >even a qualitative understanding of current topics.
-
- It's difficult even for physicists to deal competently with much of
- modern physics. The reason, I think, is that it has not been synthesized
- into enough clear well-established results. Theory is far ahead of
- experiment in most of particle physics and cosmology. That means that
- there is a forest of competing ideas and models, without enough data
- to send most of them to the grave that they will ultimately deserve.
- Meanwhile, we are faced with trying to understand many ideas which
- may fade away completely never to be seen again. (Can you say "technipions"?)
-
- Also, the ideas which are currently being discussed by working physicists
- are not necessarily mature and well-formed. They are often tenuous,
- hinted at by conflicting but suggestive data, and, to make matters worse,
- probably wrong.
-
- I think that most physicists shy away from trying to communicate this complex
- web of incomplete ideas and inconsistent data. It is much easier to
- talk about 1960's physics. There is also a mathematical barrier that can
- be difficult to overcome. Much of what motivates new ideas in high energy
- physics are mathematical considerations, or at least highly mathematical
- physical considerations.
-
- Personally, I think that the market is flooded with well-written books
- for the layman on interesting physics subjects. But this is clearly not
- enough to educate the general public. I think that we need more outreach -
- community lectures and demonstrations, inviting the public into our
- labs to see what we do, going into the public schools to help teachers
- expose their students to what goes on out on the cutting edge, etc.
-
- -Scott
- --------------------
- Scott I. Chase "It is not a simple life to be a single cell,
- SICHASE@CSA2.LBL.GOV although I have no right to say so, having
- been a single cell so long ago myself that I
- have no memory at all of that stage of my
- life." - Lewis Thomas
-