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- From: u108502@beta.lanl.gov (Andrew Poutiatine)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Re: pressure questions
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.153023.11618@newshost.lanl.gov>
- Date: 17 Nov 92 15:30:23 GMT
- Article-I.D.: newshost.1992Nov17.153023.11618
- References: <9729@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>
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- Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
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- In article <9729@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> gswst@cislabs.pitt.edu (Gary S. Wachs) writes:
- >
- >
- >This past week I took SCUBA lessons (Openwater, PDIC) and talked about
- >the effects of pressure quite a bit. As we descend into the water,
- >the ambient pressure increases, compressing us. The degree to which
- >something is compressed depends on whether is is a solid, liquid or gas.
- >
- >Therefore, if we took an extremely thick-walled metallic box with a
- >hollow center filled with a cubic foot of air at sea-level pressure of
- >1 atmosphere, I believe that the metal would be so resistent to
- >compression that the hollow air pocket inside would not see a change in
- >pressure. Yes it is changing altitude, but it is isolated from the
- >crushing forces of pressure outside the box, it won't be effected.
- >
- >Now then, am I way off or is that correct?
- >
- >Thanks in advance...
- >
- >
- >
- >
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- You are about 99% correct. Since we know it is possible to build vacuum
- chambers, it is possible to construct a "box" to withstand a greater ambient
- pressure. So yes, you can easily construct a "box" to submerge below the
- ocean surface and maintain a relatively constant internal pressure (or a
- constant internal pressure if you can vent some of the gas).
-
- The only very small problem is that all materials compress, or more generally
- strain, in the presence of a stress. There is no perfectly rigid material.
- Thus even the thickest box will deform under the influence of even the smallest
- stress. To this extent, the inside gas *will* feel the outside pressure effects, but admittedly to only a miniscule degree.
-
- Consider deep water subersibles and submarines. Typically (but not always) the
- crew inside is kept at near atmospheric pressures so that when surfacing from
- depth decompression is not a problem, and the crew does not get "bent."
-
- -AIP
-