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- From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
- Subject: Re: RFD Alternative Medicine - need definition
- Message-ID: <1992Nov21.203914.19362@spdcc.com>
- Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
- References: <17472@pitt.UUCP> <lgndknINNk16@peaches.cs.utexas.edu>
- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:39:14 GMT
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- In article <lgndknINNk16@peaches.cs.utexas.edu> turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin) writes:
- >I view this as an issue of the desire to speak sensibly about
- >science, *not* as an issue of orthodox vs. non-orthodox views.
- >Bernie Simon, for example, has read about homeopathy, has thought
- >about the evidential issues, and presents his case cogently.
-
- You're more impressed with him than I am.
-
- >I think this kind of argument belongs in sci.med. Similarly, Chuck
- >Forsberg's contributions have been valuable, even though I
- >sometimes find him strident and extreme.
-
- Chuck's problem is not that he's strident and extreme, it's that he has
- a single axe to grind, and uses selective snippets from the literature
- to prove its edge. This is not science, it's the intellectual
- equivalent of a ransom note cut from magazines. Whenever you read
- Chuck's "Adiposity 101", ask yourself, "What ISN'T he reporting?
- WHY should we trust his selection of "facts"?" As Gordon points out,
- for every study which "proves" his point (i.e., that people can't and
- should not lose weight with current techniques because it's futile)
- there are studies which contradict this, often in the same journals.
- That's because scientific "truth", such as it is, is often to be
- found only by wrestling intelligently with the cacophony of contradiction
- found in current studies.
-
- > (Of course, Steve Dyer and I have our strident days, also.)
-
- Yeah, so what? That's not the point--neither of us says dumb things.
-
- --
- Steve Dyer
- dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
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