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- From: backon@vms.huji.ac.il
- Newsgroups: sci.med
- Subject: Re: Co2 in soda-Good; O2-Stupid
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.175601.730@vms.huji.ac.il>
- Date: 17 Nov 92 17:56:00 GMT
- References: <1992Nov13.120103.12580@hemlock.cray.com> <1992Nov13.171647.1@vms.ocom.okstate.edu>
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- Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
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- In article <1992Nov13.171647.1@vms.ocom.okstate.edu>, chorley@vms.ocom.okstate.edu writes:
- > In article <1992Nov13.120103.12580@hemlock.cray.com>, n3022@cray.com (Jim Knoll) writes:
- >> I am wondering if there are any positive or negative effects of having carbon
- >> dioxide in pop or soda. Specifically, it seems that if the body gives off CO2
- >> when we exhale, it makes sense that to drink carbonated beverages with
- >> CO2 could be less than beneficial to the human body.
- >>
- >> In place of the CO2, I am wondering if putting oxygen into the pop would
- >> be better for the body as it could maybe use the O2 in a beneficial way.
- >
- > NOOOOOOOO!
- > I am certain that this is a recipe for stomach ulcers in a big
- > way
- > HCl +O2 -> HOCl + O.
- >
- > Who knows, you may generate internal O. free radicals which create the
- > euivalent of ozonolysis + cancer in the intestines. Most of the small intestine
- > is resistant to cancer despite it being a rapidly regenerating tissue (mucosa)
- >
- > If you start putting HOCl (= household bleach ) down there, who knows
- > what will happen; I wouldn't want the lawsuits. Oxygen radicals are used by our
- > immune system to kill off bacteria. We need intestinal flora .
- >
- > All in all ( not counting the fact that someone smoking may instantaneously
- > combust his cigarette in the presence of O2 and inhale carbon debris) it's a
- > DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB
- >
- > Idea
- >
- > Please note: I am a relatively sane second year medical student just getting to
- > grips with how much I don't really know.
- > If you consider this a flame; so be it. But learn some chemistry.
- >
- > David N. Chorley ( more than just slightly aggravated)
-
-
- Actually, the CO2 in soda may have therapeutic value. In 1983, it was
- found that CO2 acts as a thromboxane synthetase inhibitor (and possible
- prostacyclin agonist). I have published a number of articles on this subject
- in a number of medical journals. A MEDLINE search will show this. If I'm not
- mistaken, the 1983 reference is by Gabrielyan & Amroyan.
-
- The inhibition of thromboxane synthetase would actually *prevent* free radical
- formation. By the way, a note I published in GUT showed the value of
- thromboxane synthetase inhibitors in treating gastric ulcers. The blood
- buffering system adequately compensates for oral ingestion of soda water. This
- is *not* the same as would result by respiratory acidosis/alkalosis.
-
- We have used soda water (CO2) plus ginger (another powerful thromboxane
- synthetase inhibitor) in treating alcohol and drug addiction as well as in
- recommending to all patients leaving the ICCU (cardiac intensive care) at our
- teaching hospital.
-
- You may be a second year med student but you've got a lot to learn about
- physiology before you post on sci.med.
-
-
- Josh
-
- Dr. Josh Backon
- backon@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL
-
-