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- From: hank@well.sf.ca.us (Hank Roberts)
- Subject: Re: Weight Loss with Dexfenfluramine
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- References: <1992Nov13.140839.7710@omen.UUCP> <1992Nov13.185315.14960@ms.uky.edu> <hank.721700152@well.sf.ca.us> <1992Nov16.143557.10638@ms.uky.edu>
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:50:04 GMT
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- In <1992Nov16.143557.10638@ms.uky.edu> jrt@omega.kcr.uky.edu (J. Randall Thompson) writes:
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- >In article <hank.721700152@well.sf.ca.us> hank@well.sf.ca.us (Hank Roberts) writes:
- >>In <1992Nov13.185315.14960@ms.uky.edu> jrt@omega.kcr.uky.edu (J. Randall Thompson) writes:
- >>
- >>>And you haven't shown us the *FACTS* that indicate lipid profile is an
- >>>accurate indicator of caloric intake or change in caloric intake for
- >>>an individual.
- >>See Section VII of Weintraub, et al., beginning at p. 634, for their results.
- >>"Compared with baseline, triglyceride levels decreased significantly by 21%,
- >>31%, 29% and 29% at weeks 34, 54, 104, and 139, respectively.... triglyceride
- >>levels at week 34 were significantly (_p_ < 0.025) less in the participants
- >>treated with anorexiants. Overall, participants in the long-term weight
- >>control study had beneficial changes in their lipid profiles, thus decreasing
- >>their risk of coronary heart disease. (Clin. Pharmacol. Ther. 1992;51:634-41)
- >>
- >>That's from the abstract of Section VII, titled "Serum lipid changes" --CPT
- >>may be available at a medical library if you wish further detail on this.
-
- >I'm not not going to waste anymore bandwidth on this. You obviously do not
- >understand that the above data IN NO WAY proves that a lipid profile is
- >an accurate indicator of caloric intake, or changes in caloric intake, for
- >a given individual.
-
- >--
- >[] J. Randall Thompson jrt@kcr.uky.edu []
- >[] University of Kentucky, Lexington, Kentucky []
-
- "The above data" certainly do not prove IN ANY WAY anything. If you
- will refer to the paper -- and note that one of the stated main goals
- of the four-year program was to investigate what happens to lipids during
- weight changes -- you will see that some lipids did (and others did not)
- vary along with weight. I regret that I can't post the charts here for you.
-
- The lipid studies were of major interest to the writers, and deserve to
- be read in the original; they are interesting and suggestive of further
- possible investigation, at least.
-