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- From: sylviab@sequent.com (Sylvia Berkowitz)
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- Subject: Re: What can we have for an educational system?
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- Date: 23 Nov 92 22:09:01 GMT
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- In article <By47oF.2z3@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
- >
- >One of the weaknesses of our miseducational system is that there is far too
- >much of an emphasis on teaching children to memorize what is immediately
- >applicable in the elementary and secondary schools. This continues on to
- >the universities now, and is even reaching the graduate schools. There
- >does not seem to be any immediate relevance of the axiomatic approach to
- >geometry when it is given, but the child is under great unlearning stress
- >if computational junk is given at that stage instead of reasoning.
- >
- >This also holds in other fields. Is a child forced to do rote taxonomy
- >in the lower grades any better prepared to understand molecular biology,
- >or even worse, the problems of biochemistry which involve both physical
- >and chemical structure of biological materials, later? Is the child
- >who learns ancient physics better able to understand the simpler, but
- >mathematically involuted, models later? The answer is almost certainly NO.
-
- This last reminded me of a story from "Surely You're joking, Mr. Feynman!"
- It concerns the time that Feynman took a side step into biology. When it
- came time to give a talk on his paper (on the nature of nerve impulses)...
- Well, I'll let him tell it.
-
- When it came time for me to give my talk on the subject, I
- started off by drawing an outline of the cat and began to name off
- the various muscles.
- The other students in the class interrupt me, "We *know* all
- that!"
- "Oh," I say, "you do? Then no wonder I can catch up with you
- so fast after you've had four years of biology." They had wasted
- all their time memorizing stuff like that, when it could be looked
- up in fifteen minutes.
-
- Also, I wanted to say thank you for your comment about physics. I started
- taking physics (with calc) this term, and I can't tell you how much of my
- original enthusiasm has been dampened due to the rote problem solving
- "skills" approach. All I want as a student is for someone to help me
- understand what's going on! My ability to solve problems will come as
- a consequence of that understanding. However, when someone trys to teach
- me, by giving me a series of methods or "skills," you can forget it.
- I won't remember it.
- I won't be able to relate it.
- I won't be able to apply it.
- I can't memorize a technique to save my life, but I CAN LEARN.
-
- >--
- >Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
- >Phone: (317)494-6054
- >hrubin@snap.stat.purdue.edu (Internet, bitnet)
- >{purdue,pur-ee}!snap.stat!hrubin(UUCP)
-
-
- --
-
- Sylvia A. Berkowitz sylviab@sequent.com uunet!sequent!sylviab
- "It is odd, but on the infrequent occasions when I have been called upon in
- a formal place to play the bongo drums, the introducer never seems to find
-