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- Subject: Re: What can we have for an educational system?
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- From: kmushal@eis.calstate.edu (KAYE MUSHALIK)
- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 00:09:28 GMT
- References: <1992Nov19.004734.20143@linus.mitre.org>
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- bs@gauss.mitre.org (Robert D. Silverman) writes:
- > In article <BxrGCs.4tp@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
- > :In article <1992Nov15.122659.129397@zeus.calpoly.edu> mhorning@zeus.calpoly.edu (Mark E. Horning (Captain Neutrino)) writes:
- > :>clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin) states
- > :
- > :>>In article <ARA.92Nov11034458@camelot.ai.mit.edu>, ara@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Allan Adler) writes:
- > :
- > :
- > :>>>As I have pointed out on other occasions, if they would improve the
- > :>>>working conditions, they could have PhD's teaching in the public schools.
- > :>>>I don't mean improve them a little. I mean offer working conditions that
- > :>>>would make a PhD happy and the glut of unemployed and underemployed
- > :>>>PhD's will beat down the doors of the schools trying to get in.
- >
- > Actually, at least in my experience, the conditions that would make
- > most PhD's happy are essentially impossible to obtain. Nothing the
- > schools or school systems could do would provide what they want.
- >
- > What they want of course is motivated students and students who
- > are *interested* in learning. This is the responsibility of parents.
- > Currently, cultural conditions in the U.S. are such that most people
- > do not place a high value on education. The result? Students who
- > don't give a shit.
- > --
- > Bob Silverman
- > These are my opinions and not MITRE's.
- > Mitre Corporation, Bedford, MA 01730
- > "You can lead a horse's ass to knowledge, but you can't make him think"
-
- I had a teacher in high school who had a PhD but couldn't teach worth
- "beans". It was obvious that he knew his subject well but he couldn't
- convey any excitement to us. I don't claim to be brilliant, but there
- were kids in my class who were and they even had trouble with the subject.
- Yes, it's important to know the subject matter, but it is more important to
- know how to make that subject EXCITING and RELEVANT to the students' lives.
-
- **Kaye**
-