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- From: swillden@news.ccutah.edu (Shawn Willden)
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- Subject: Minimum standards for math "competency"
- Summary: Questionnaire about math competency requirements at other schools.
- Keywords: math competency education university college standards
- Message-ID: <1992Nov18.165157.14599@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
- Date: 18 Nov 92 16:51:57 GMT
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- At Weber State University, Ogden, Utah, U.S.A (where I am working on a
- B.S. in math and CS) there is a movement to change (lower) the
- standards for math competency. The current policy states that every
- student recieving a degree from Weber State must demonstrate his/her
- mathematics competency by either 1) scoring a 19 or better on the
- mathematics portion of the ACT or 2) passing a course in basic algebra
- skills (called math 105) as taught by the mathematics department. The
- proposed change (which, incidentally, was *passed* last year by the
- faculty senate and only came up for reconsideration through the
- efforts of myself, some other students and math dept. faculty) would
- allow any department on campus to submit their own courses as
- substitutes for math 105 in fulfillment of the math competency
- requirement. The proposal specifies a list of topics that must be
- covered by the course in order to qualify but makes no mention of any
- standards with which the teaching of these topics is to be judged.
- The proposal is championed by the departments of various social
- sciences (Sociology, communications, etc.) who feel that math 105 is
- simply too difficult for their students to pass. (Math 105 is
- essentially a high-school algebra course).
-
- I am completely opposed to this proposal on the grounds that it will
- weaken degrees from WSU. (Just so there's no question about *my*
- opinion of the matter :-)
-
- I have heard that many other schools around the country are facing
- similar problems. I would like to hear experiences from anyone who
- has faced this situation and arguments both for and against such
- proposals.
-
- Also, (and this is really why I'm posting) I would like to find out
- what standards are at other schools. I would like to be able to use
- this information as ammunition for my arguments, so I would appreciate
- it greatly if you would include your name, position and possibly even
- a phone number where you can be reached if I need to verify any of the
- info. So, please take a moment and answer the following questions
- about your school's math competency requirements.
-
- I am especially interested in colleges and universities with a makeup
- similar to Weber's. Weber is basically a four-year educational
- institution (we only recently became a university and though there are
- plans for many master's programs in the works, currently we have only
- master's in education and business programs) with a studentbody of
- approximately 14,000 students, most of whom commute to school and many
- of whom are non-traditional students (I believe the average age of a
- WSU student is ~26 years).
-
- Questions:
-
- School information and demographics:
-
- What is the name of your school and where is it
- located?
-
- Describe your studentbody (size, age distribution,
- etc.)
-
- What is the "purpose" of your school (i.e. education,
- research, is your school an "elite" school, etc.)
-
- Math competency requirements:
-
- What math is required for entrance?
-
- What math is required for graduation?
-
- Is there an additional requirement for B.S. degrees
- as opposed to B.A. degrees?
-
- Are all math courses that count towards these minimum
- requirements taught by the mathematics dept.?
-
- If not, how are standards enforced?
-
- General thoughts about math competency requirements:
-
- What do you think should be a minimum standard for
- a graduate of a four-year institution?
-
- Do you think allowing departmentalized mathematics
- courses is wise? Why or why not?
-
- Any other comments?
-
- Thanks for your time,
- respond either on the net or by e-mail (e-mail preferred unless you have
- something you would like to discuss with the net at large).
-
- --
- Shawn Willden
- swillden@icarus.weber.edu
-
-
- --
- Shawn Willden
- swillden@icarus.weber.edu
-